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Well, surprise. Stanford is pretty smart.

Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:11 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:11 pm
They probably didn’t HAVE to do what they did, but they used the cover of Covid to axe programs bleeding money from their AD, multiple coaches and support staff that don’t pay for themselves and were able to do it without receiving any backlash. Hell, they’re getting sympathy.

Pretty slick iyam
Posted by moester75
Anne Arundel County, MD
Member since Oct 2018
1544 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:18 am to
I absolutely agree and the radical feminists are not saying anything I’ve heard about the loss of the female sports either. Covid appears to be Title 9 proof?
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 12:21 am to
Wasnt it an equal amount of men and womens sports?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:38 am to
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and were able to do it without receiving any backlash


Why would they get any backlash?
Posted by moester75
Anne Arundel County, MD
Member since Oct 2018
1544 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 2:33 am to
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Why would they get any backlash?


You’re not at all surprised that Stanford pretty much just cut dead weight from their athletic department and not any heat at all has been thrown their way?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:42 am to
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You’re not at all surprised that Stanford pretty much just cut dead weight from their athletic department and not any heat at all has been thrown their way


Under the current circumstances? Of course
not. They have a projected $70 million deficit over the next 3 years.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25171 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 6:40 am to
It is not a surprise in the least. A lot of schools are pouring money down the drain when it comes to their athletics. Folks have been saying for quite some time that this was unsustainable. Well all it took was a pandemic hanging over our heads for all those chickens to come home to roost.

A lot of schools, including some major ones, are going to have to quietly axe some of their non-revenue sports.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:13 am to
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They have a projected $70 million deficit over the next 3 years.


Haha, that’s a good one. Losing money on programs has not been a silencer in the past.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:52 am to
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Haha, that’s a good one. Losing money on programs has not been a silencer in the past.



$25 million in a year? What was the last program to do that?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118907 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:03 am to
Pretty brilliant, use the pandemic to your fiscal advantage.

And being that they are a pac10 school, no one would notice anyway.
Posted by paperwasp
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22989 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:15 am to
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They have a projected $70 million deficit over the next 3 years.

No doubt in my mind that a lot of departments run tight by having to fund non-revenue programs.

That being said, the cynical side of me also thinks about the amount of shared money from conferences, television contracts, apparel deals, etc. and believes that some of these huge Power Five deficits could be a bit of creative accounting.

You know how those big movies sometimes bring in millions of dollars and yet they claim to never make a profit, or even lose money?

I've just got to think that the on-paper figures are worse than the real numbers, or a lot these programs would have been defunded years ago.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
105376 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:20 am to
Money lost does not stop the justice warriors of our country. That is the point. If something quells the voices then that is a surprise.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:32 am to
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You know how those big movies sometimes bring in millions of dollars and yet they claim to never make a profit, or even lose money?


IDK about other athletic departments but the UGA AD has to pay the school the full cost of tuition,books etc for every schololorship athlete. It's not like the old days with the "extra desk" policy.(zero sum gain for every athlete on scholarship) I'm assuming this is pretty clear cut across the board and most athletic depts have way too many employees
and many have been getting by on the narrowist of margins.


quote:

I've just got to think that the on-paper figures are worse than the real numbers, or a lot these programs would have been defunded years ago


I've never seen or heard of losses and projections this bad.

Who knows if they're cooking the books and
Stanford is a private institution so they really don't have to be transparent.
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
6492 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:39 am to
How many of those sports were NCAA sanctioned sports?
Posted by paperwasp
11x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
22989 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:40 am to
True, I'm just basing that cyncism on gut feeling and nothing else.

Could be 100% legit, which is sort of scary for the majority of non-P5 programs, especially.
Posted by paperwasp
11x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
22989 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:42 am to
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How many of those sports were NCAA sanctioned sports?
quote:

NCAA DI members have now cut 56 sports - the most in 14 yrs (66 in 2006).

By sport
Tennis 15
Glf 5
Swim 5
Track 4
Fencng 4
BSB 3
Sqsh 3
Rowng: 3
Soccer: 2
XC 2
Sailing: 2
Wrestling: 2
Six sports at 1: Vball, Skiing, SBall, LaX, Eqstrian, FHockey

By gender
Men 33
Women 22
Coed 1
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:26 am to
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Money lost does not stop the justice warriors of our country. That is the point. If something quells the voices then that is a surprise


It's pretty black & white but obviously not enough to ditch title IX. THAT would be the tipping point.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:32 am to
quote:

No doubt in my mind that a lot of departments run tight by having to fund non-revenue programs.

That being said, the cynical side of me also thinks about the amount of shared money from conferences, television contracts, apparel deals, etc. and believes that some of these huge Power Five deficits could be a bit of creative accounting.

You know how those big movies sometimes bring in millions of dollars and yet they claim to never make a profit, or even lose money?

I've just got to think that the on-paper figures are worse than the real numbers, or a lot these programs would have been defunded years ago.

You asked

I delivered
Creative Accounting Explained
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41152 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:55 am to
These athletic administrators are getting ready for a massive shortfall when the boosters don't re-up for donations because they don't want to watch protesters play football, or any other sport. Ain't nobody paying $20k for a skybox to watch people tear down statues.
Posted by paperwasp
11x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
22989 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:02 am to
quote:

You asked

I delivered
Creative Accounting Explained

Great article.
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