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Week 5 Sagarin rankings

Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:13 am
Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:13 am
newsflash, Texas, Ohio State, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Penn State, and Miami still have garbage strength of schedule. Also Missouri

This post was edited on 10/1/24 at 10:14 am
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
3368 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:18 am to
The Zou @143
Posted by PHLaggie
Member since May 2021
219 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:27 am to
Yea... wow! Mizzou at 143?! Man, the Mizzou O is going to get a wake-up call from that stout Aggie D line starting at 11:00am local time in College Station this Saturday.

I sure hope so, because the corners are a liability. But yea, with Mizzou's SOS, they haven't seen anything approaching what they're about to see this Saturday. My Ags might still figure out a way to lose (the calendar is finally into October).


Posted by AulderMagee
Dallas
Member since Mar 2024
2811 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:35 am to
cry more
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18763 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:40 am to
Mizzou already played a top 25 team.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
25694 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:40 am to
Not a fan of Sagarin to be honest, especially since it's SoS method uses averages and says it's harder to play the #49 and #50 teams than it is the #1 and #101 teams.

But when you've only played shitty teams, the average is probably correct.

FEI SoS rankings(doesn't use averages) for the SEC

1. Kentucky
2. Georgia
11. Alabama
16. Miss St
23. Oklahoma
26. USC
34. LSU
38. Florida
45. Texas
50. Texas A&M
58. Auburn
61. Arkansas
64. Tennessee
78. Vandy
81. Ole Miss
124. Missouri


OOC Point and laugh:

105: Penn St
110: Iowa St
112: Ohio St

Mountain WAC Boise St has played a harder schedule than these teams and ranks #15.

This post was edited on 10/1/24 at 10:45 am
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
11571 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:45 am to
Is there anything out there that looks at the current & projected SOS based on current rankings?

For example..
6 Texas SOS 254 (current) 74 (projected)

or something like that.. I don't really care as we all can only play the schedule in front of us, but it perhaps adds weight to a resume.. or it takes it away
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
25694 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:46 am to
quote:

Is there anything out there that looks at the current & projected SOS based on current rankings?

For example..
6 Texas SOS 254 (current) 74 (projected)

or something like that.. I don't really care as we all can only play the schedule in front of us, but it perhaps adds weight to a resume.. or it takes it away


Not that I know of.

My old formula did, but that hasn't been around for over a decade.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
42972 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:48 am to
But they ain't played nobody Paaaawl
Posted by Aggie in TN
Franklin TN
Member since Jun 2022
1694 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:57 am to
Vandy?
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
69214 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 11:00 am to
The average type rankings are so badly skewed right now, will take another 2-3 weeks before it really starts to normalize some. The dogshit schedules (played so far) will change quickly for the green highlighted teams.

Playing a really bad FCS team also hurts you a lot right now in this. For example, Missouri playing #211 ranked Murray St, or Auburn playing #250 ranked Alabama A&M

Tennessee had the privilege of playing the worst ranked FBS team Kent State which is #207 in their rankings

Those type of games will get less impactful as the schedule ramps up severely for those teams.
This post was edited on 10/1/24 at 11:04 am
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3319 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 11:08 am to
Sagarin only really works when the season is over. Takes that to get all the cross references in.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
4950 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 11:14 am to
quote:

newsflash, Texas, Ohio State, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Penn State, and Miami still have garbage strength of schedule. Also Missouri


I cannot think of a better nickname for Mizzou than “Also Missouri”

They are always going to be an afterthought
Posted by paperwasp
#2 in SEC OT Power Rankings
Member since Sep 2014
24621 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 11:17 am to
Haven't seen Sagarin in a while, but I (seriously) respect that they keep trying to tweak their algorithms.

What is the "Strong Recent" metric on the far right?

Is that like a recency-biased indicator of how they've been playing as of late? Like Florida State last year after their QB got hurt versus their performance earlier in the season, for example?
Posted by theballguy
Playoffs?
Member since Oct 2011
7337 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 11:20 am to
quote:

Is that like a recency-biased indicator of how they've been playing as of late? Like Florida State last year after their QB got hurt versus their performance earlier in the season, for example?



Yep exactly. I think it's based on last 2 games.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
15839 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 11:24 am to
Another example to reinforce that OOC schedules should not be arbitrarily put into the hands of weakminded ADs and Head Coaches.

The line of least resistance is astounding and makes for some terrible TV schedules.
Posted by UTATX
ATX
Member since May 2024
225 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 11:42 am to
And yet we're 1
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18402 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 11:48 am to
Only teams with a win vs a top 10 team..... Alabama; Kentucky.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18763 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 12:13 pm to
quote:


Vandy?

no.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
19915 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

newsflash, Texas, Ohio State, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Penn State, and Miami still have garbage strength of schedule.



OMG! Even after a Bye Week, Tennessee's SOS didn't improve? I'm shocked.
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