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re: Watching the 1969 Texas vs Arkansas game

Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:23 am to
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:23 am to
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A couple years later another game of the century between Nebraska and Oklahoma and Johnny rodgers goes off. Jack Mildren, Joe Washington, jerre tagge, rodgers, all played great and literally no one should have lost. Best game I ever saw until the bc-Miami game in 84.


Yep and unfortunately an undefeated BAMA team ends up getting that Nebraska team in the Orange bowl. Oklahoma gets an Auburn team in the Sugar. Both went badly for the SEC.
Posted by Captain Crown
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:26 am to
I feel like they show this game a 100 times a day on LHN
Posted by Windy City
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:29 am to
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There is a tendency among some to discount the talent of players of the game in the 60's and 70's, but there were a lot of really talented players in this game.


You can still go look at the rosters. The biggest guy on that Texas squad was Bob McKay at 6'6" and 245 lbs.

Those guys in that form would struggle to win a game or two in this era.
Posted by Windy City
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:37 am to
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Been said that F Broyles was never the same after that. Arkansas was top 3 in wins in the 60 and probably top 5 during 60s and 70s. Arkansas was once a legit power.


My neighbor five houses down in the 80s in Dallas was Bill Montgomery. He rarely ever brought up the game to anyone. We had another neighbor on the same block who was a backup lineman for for Darrell Royal in the early 70s and whose father actually played for Dana X Bible when he was coaching the Horns in the 40s.

He talked about the game constantly, and it was always fun to watch that dynamic during Indian Guides campouts or when they had beers in the yard.
Posted by hookem2522
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:57 am to
Street to Peschel
Posted by TNTigerman
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:03 am to
Trickie Dickie.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:10 am to
I was reading the boxscore of the 1897 game between 15-0 Penn and 10-1 Washington Jefferson. Helluva game.

The players in the 90s were more versatile than players in the modern game. They could get home from the game, shoe a horse, churn butter, and still have stamina to to pick the weavels out of the beans. News of the Wounded Knee Massacre had spread by then, too, so that provided a nice little jolt of frivolity.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 10:15 am
Posted by ronricks
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 11:10 am to
Nixon was supposed to sit in the press box. He wanted to be seen as a 'regular fan' and a 'man of the people' etc. so he sat in stands. His whole appearance there from arriving in a helicopter etc. was orchestrated by Nixon to gain attention etc. This was discussed in the Horns, Hogs, and Nixon Coming book.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 11:13 am to
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Is that Barry Goldwater sitting next to Nixon?
Posted by sojourner44
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 11:14 am to
I watched that as well. None of the players were black and I didn't see one who looked like he weighed over 250 lbs. What was really sobering were those side line shots of those cute cheerleaders and realizing they're all on Social Security now (if they're still alive). It was my generation (just got back from Nam).
Posted by ucbearcats
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 11:20 am to
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There is a tendency among some to discount the talent of players of the game in the 60's and 70's, but there were a lot of really talented players in this game


Let us be real here, they were good for their time but would not see the field today except to pack water.
Posted by Ptins944
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:16 pm to
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The NFL wasn't the money maker that it is today. The players on both teams were playing for the love of the game or grew up fans of the universities. But many were still successful in job careers and the college football experience was a huge boost to that success.


Worster was drafted in the fourth round by the Los Angeles Rams and played one season in Canada, before returning home, because he said he had been raised "Southeast Texas solid" and was just interested in making a decent living and raising a family.

"Football had provided me everything that I wanted it to provide me and everything that had been promised to me," he told the Beaumont Enterprise in 2010 when he was honored in Bridge City.

A number of Texas players expressed a sentiment they had given up hunting for football over the years and they were anxious to get back to the hunting.



Posted by Ptins944
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:21 pm to
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My parents went to that game supporting the Longhorns. No one in Arkansas would sell them gas as they drove back to Texas. Gas stations had attendants that pumped you gas for you. They saw the Texas plates and walked back inside.
I was raised to forgive and forget, but this is still the first thing I think about when I hear "Arkansas."
Posted by Ptins944
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:33 pm to
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Is that Barry Goldwater sitting next to Nixon?

Those sitting with the president include Governor Winthrop Rockefeller, Congressman John Paul Hammerschmidt (far left), University President David Mullins (lower center), future President George H.W. Bush (right looking at the camera,) and Senator J. William Fulbright to the left of Bush. President Nixon and the other political dignitaries joined more than 40,000 rabid Razorbacks fans. Billy Graham, the most famous religious figure in the United States, attended with his son as special guests of President Nixon’s.
Posted by ronricks
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 12:45 pm to
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You can still go look at the rosters. The biggest guy on that Texas squad was Bob McKay at 6'6" and 245 lbs.

Those guys in that form would struggle to win a game or two in this era.



Give Bob modern training and nutrition and PED's and how big would he be? You have to keep this in perspective. I'm not even sure any of those guys in 1969 were doing any meaningful weight/strength training.
Posted by Ptins944
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:13 pm to
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Let us be real here, they were good for their time but would not see the field today except to pack water.
I think some of them might have made the traveling squad ...
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Royal might have delivered Texas its first national title five years before... but now he was under immense pressure from the boosters and students to win again.

"That spring, he called us together and said, 'Boys, we're not going to be 6-4 this next year. We may be 0-10, we maybe 10-0, but we're not going to be 6-4,'" remembered running back Ted Koy. "It was the most hellacious spring training. I mean, it was a bloodletting."

Quite literally, in fact. During one unforgettable drill, fullback Steve Worster slammed headfirst into future All-American defensive end Bill Atessis, triggering a hit so vicious it cracked Worster's face mask in half while also breaking his nose. With blood gushing down his face, Worster was handed a towel -- then another helmet so he wouldn't miss his turn.


Steve Worster was 6' & 210 lbs., comparable to todays RB's.

In High School, he was All-District for four years, All-State for three years, and accumulated 5,422 yards, including 38 100-yard games, second in Texas prep history, and led Bridge City to the Class 3-A state football championship in 1966, running for 2,210 yards and being named a High-School All-American.

After his graduation, Bridge City High School retired his jersey number.

In College, he was the motivation behind Royal's famed wishbone offense in 1968. At Texas, Worster rushed for 2,353 yards and scored 36 touchdowns, won 3 Southwest Conference titles and 2 national championships, was a two-time All-American (1969 and 1970) and three-time All-Southwest Conference selection and finished fourth in balloting for the Heisman Trophy, behind Jim Plunkett, Joe Theismann, and Archie Manning.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:31 pm to
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future President George H.W. Bush and Senator J. William Fulbright

Great picture.

James Fulbright is of course known for the Fulbright Scholarship, which still funds Americans studying abroad.

In addition to being an Arkansas Senator, he was the longest serving chairman in the history of the Committee on Foreign Relations.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:16 pm to
John Barnhill should be given credit for the rise of Arkansas football. He did hire a very young Frank Broyles. It took years in the making but Barnhill was able to get the football program in a positive direction with first the hire of Bowden Wyatt.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:35 pm to
Back during those times weightlifting was seen as joke and the bulky muscles would weigh the player down. The 60s was the first decade not involving one platoon football. So it was a transitional period in the early days of modern college football. So it asked the body more stamina over strength.

I like the decades of 60s and 70s because they were in great shape compared to the players of today who once football is over with, struggle with weight problems or other health issues.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:36 pm to
Very little because the belief was that weightlifting was bad.
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