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Vol fans: What happened with Cuonzo Martin?

Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:29 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:29 pm
He improved the Vols every year and made the sweet 16 in his final year. Why did he leave?

Interested in some background as he's emerging as a serious candidate for us.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41063 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:35 pm to
He has Cal playing pretty good. They had Oregon on the ropes last night and lost on a buzzer beater.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27419 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:36 pm to
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he's emerging as a serious candidate for us.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:37 pm to
He's improved every spot he's been, and he should be able to recruit STL like a monster if he was at Mizzou.

I'm warming up to the idea
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27419 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:03 am to
I know man...I'm still leery.
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
15507 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:05 am to
Cuonzo Martin and Frank Martin are 1a and 1b on my wishlist of coaches
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27419 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:09 am to
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Cuonzo Martin and Frank Martin are 1a and 1b on my wishlist of coaches


You know I respect you but that scares me a little.

Posted by JBearden
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2011
2657 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:09 am to
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Cuonzo Martin and Frank Martin are 1a and 1b on my wishlist of coaches


But both are at better programs.
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
15507 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:11 am to
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You know I respect you but that scares me a little.





Trying to keep it realistic, plus....we can't go down from where we're at
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
15507 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:12 am to
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But both are at better programs.



Ok. Ole Miss is a better football program than Alabama.
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:12 am to
His teams always underachieved. Many hailed the Sweet 16 team as some sort of coaching success, but that team had no business being on the bubble.

He is the type of coach that teaches "toughness and defense", the type of shite that takes no coaching acumen. I would not want him to coach my team and would much rather have Barnes who doesn't leave campus to recruit.

ESPN said he left because VOLS supporters are racist and he feared for his life while in Knoxville.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 12:14 am
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27419 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:19 am to
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Trying to keep it realistic, plus....we can't go down from where we're at


Settling for Frank Martin? I like him as a coach but he should be down the list IMO. We should do better.
Posted by psk_Vol
Nashville
Member since Jan 2012
3648 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:20 am to
Us white Tennesseans were so racist for criticizing poor Cuonzo. It's not like he had roster with 3 NBA guys and played in arguably the worst power 5 basketball conference that year. Totally intolerant of us to be upset at him in year 3 for being on or outside the bubble the entire season with a roster full of NBA talent.

Not to mention the fact that his brand of basketball is boring and never flows in the half court. Plus he has zero personality as a figure head.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 12:23 am
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65734 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:22 am to
They ran him out of town because they wanted to rehire Bruce Pearl, even had a petition with 40K sigs and bought an ad in the paper.

I think he ends up at Illinois though.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27419 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:22 am to
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I think he ends up at Illinois though.


That's my bet as well.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40948 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:29 am to
Very, very average basketball coach. Can't speak for other Tennessee fans but I was very pleased when he left Tennessee.

He will have you ok-solid every year but he will need to overwhelm teams with talent or get a very, very good draw (like what he had at Tennessee in his Sweet 16 year) to ever accomplish anything at all in March.

Very, very suspect offensive acumen imo.

As another poster said he had Jordan McRae, Jarnell Stokes, Jeronne Maymon, Josh Richardson, Armani Moore, Robert Hubbs and Darius Thompson and was in the First 4 in 2014.

His kids are going to buy in and play good defense but the next time he makes an in game adjustment to help his team win a game will be the first.

His teams seem to play to the level of competition almost every night.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 12:30 am
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:43 am to
THAT


is some good intel
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40948 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 12:50 am to
I will say on the positive side of things that his teams seem to get better as the season goes on. Every year he was at Tennessee (and just about every year he's been a head coach) his teams are playing much better by the end of February than they were in December.

As long as you are solid talent wise you will have a shot just about every time out by the end of the year, but you could also lose to SEMO on a cold December night in Como and it wouldn't shock me at all.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 12:51 am
Posted by Supravol22
Member since Jan 2011
14408 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 6:33 am to
His offense is borderline unwatchable. He plays a grind it down style that is not exciting. I have season tickets and I was just sick of it by the time he left. I was glad when he did.

We were all racist though for saying ANYTHING about him. So have fun with that.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/24/17 at 6:53 am to
Cuonzo and Grant were very similar. We played some unwatchable basketball games against each other.

The 2014 team had Josh Richardson, Jordan McRae and Jarnell Stokes. The fact that they barely slipped into the tournament was semi embarrassing.

To be fair to Cuonzo, though, he found Richardson and helped him improve year over year.

He'd clearly be an improvement over what's there now, but he has a 7-8 seed type progeam ceiling.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 6:56 am
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