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re: Virginia Tech in active talks with SEC...
Posted on 5/18/12 at 10:53 am to KillianRussell
Posted on 5/18/12 at 10:53 am to KillianRussell
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Without googling I would guess Va Tech's enrollment almost doubles UVA
im sure it does funny thing is before the standard for VT where raised post MV7 VT was easy to get into and looked at more of the redneck school in VA
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 10:54 am to StraightCashHomey21
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The B1G network is part of most sports packages already in the DC area
It's a part of my UVerse package in Ms as well. Point is... it costs television subscribers less than $0.10/subscription outside of the B1G markets. It costs $0.90/subscription inside the B1G markets(where it is in high demand). An SEC network will be worth much more than this inside the SEC market, because we care so much more.
Excellent reading on the topic here: LINK
Posted on 5/18/12 at 10:59 am to engie
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An SEC network will be worth much more than this inside the SEC market, because we care so much more.
Twice as many people live in the Delaware Valley (metro Philly) than the entire state of Mississippi. Caring must get bonus points
Is the combined size of the Ole Miss & State staduims equal to 105 k ?
Posted on 5/18/12 at 10:59 am to KillianRussell
To both KillianRussell and StraightCashHomey21--There's no doubt there are loyal fans in the DC area of many schools, B1G, SEC, ACC, whatever conference. Being the nation's capital this is to be expected.
The question is, are there enough of them to command a larger fee per subscriber?
One rough measure to use is the number of alumni chapters in an area. Florida, for example, has four such chapters (Gator Clubs) in the South Florida area alone (six if you count the Florida Keys). Penn State only has three and none in the Keys.
The question is, are there enough of them to command a larger fee per subscriber?
One rough measure to use is the number of alumni chapters in an area. Florida, for example, has four such chapters (Gator Clubs) in the South Florida area alone (six if you count the Florida Keys). Penn State only has three and none in the Keys.
Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:02 am to Quidam65
Huh ?
Penn State has 3 alumni clubs in Florida or Washington D.C. ?
Penn State has 3 alumni clubs in Florida or Washington D.C. ?
Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:06 am to JPLSU1981
How about friggin CLEMSON. Thats as close to an SEC team as you are going to get out of the ACC.
This bastardized conference business sucks. I am still pissed that Arkansas and South Carolina got let in.
This bastardized conference business sucks. I am still pissed that Arkansas and South Carolina got let in.
Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:08 am to Quidam65
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The question is, are there enough of them to command a larger fee per subscriber?
I am not a Conf. homer I have no idea how the others factor in but yes Penn State with the nations largest alumni assoc.(closer to Happy Valley than Philly) has a huge DC presence.
ETA Do you know how big Penn State is in terms of enrollment ?
In addition to the 44 k in central pa there are an equal number of students state wide doing year one and two at 13 satelitte campus
I would guess PSU has 88k students enrolled at this time
Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:10 am to Quidam65
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The question is, are there enough of them to command a larger fee per subscriber?
adding VT wouldn't change that i remember the VT@Maryland game not on TV in dc it was on espn3 and not even on a local affiliate
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Penn State only has three and none in the Keys.
im sure they are pretty large, WVU has tons in flordia as well and the DC area chapter is the largest out of state one there is
Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:10 am to KillianRussell
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13 satelitte campus
which one did you attend
Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:13 am to StraightCashHomey21
I am from the east I had to do my 1st year @ Abington outside Philadelphia before main campus.
I am not OT smart I did not have the SAT scores to get in to the main campus as a freshman
I am not OT smart I did not have the SAT scores to get in to the main campus as a freshman
This post was edited on 5/18/12 at 11:19 am
Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:19 am to KillianRussell
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Twice as many people live in the Delaware Valley (metro Philly) than the entire state of Mississippi. Caring must get bonus points
Population does not equal viewers. 85% of 1 million is greater than 5% of 15 million. This has been shown to you in EXCRUCIATING DETAIL on here, repeatedly, yet you keep returning to the same song and dance.
I'm still awaiting your explanation of why more people in Birmingham watched the 4 non-championship BCS games last year that SEC teams did not partake in, than people in Chicago with 2 B1G teams playing?? If that doesn't tell the story in a way that you can understand, nothing can.
Stadium smack as well? State and OM combined currently put 120,000(before both of our current expansions) in the stands every weekend + 36,000 at Southern Miss.
150,000 in a state of 3 million people = 5% of entire population.
175,000(Penn St, Pitt, and Penn) in a state of 13 million people = 1.35% of total population. But yeah, you care just as much**
Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:24 am to engie
Blah Blah Blah
100% of the nations 99th largest tv market !
100% of the nations 99th largest tv market !
Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:56 am to engie
Not caring =/= as not winning the MNC, Ohio State had 80k at the spring game in the rain
Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:59 am to KillianRussell
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Huh ?
Penn State has 3 alumni clubs in Florida or Washington D.C. ?
South Florida area (Miami/Fort Lauderdale/Palm Beach plus the Keys). I thought the comparison was more clear but I apologize for not making it so.
Posted on 5/18/12 at 12:03 pm to engie
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It's a part of my UVerse package in Ms as well. Point is... it costs television subscribers less than $0.10/subscription outside of the B1G markets. It costs $0.90/subscription inside the B1G markets(where it is in high demand). An SEC network will be worth much more than this inside the SEC market, because we care so much more.
Thanks Engie! Excellent article, and given that the SEC Network will have better content (since SEC baseball is second-to-none while the B1G can't find the baseball in all the snow), the $$$ will definitely mean MEGAPROFIT for the schools (maybe we're at GIGAPROFIT levels?)
Posted on 5/18/12 at 12:08 pm to Quidam65
ONLY 3 IN Florida ?
Central Florida Chapter
Katie Bartoo '92
C/O Broad and Cassel
390 N. Orange Ave., Ste. 1400
Orlando, FL 32801-4961
kbartoo@broadandcassel.com
LINK
Daytona-Palm Coast Chapter
Robert Walls '88
41 East Diamond Drive
Palm Coast, FL 32164
rwalls7@cfl.rr.com
LINK
Emerald Coast Chapter
Stan Allsopp '70
4535 Deerfield Drive
Pensacola, FL 32526-4300
psuflorida@cox.net
LINK
Fort Lauderdale Chapter
Ken Ortner '75
1613 NE 5th Court
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301
kaoftlaud@psualum.com
LINK
Fort Myers Chapter
Bruce Edelson '61
14353 Devington Way
Fort Myers, FL 33908
bruceedelson@yahoo.com
LINK
Gulf Coast Chapter
Janet Arena '62
4631 Oak Hill Drive
Sarasota, FL 34232
jarena14@comcast.net
LINK
Jacksonville Chapter
Josiah Pritchard '96
525 3rd Street, N
#413
Jacksonville Beach, FL 32250
jxp31@yahoo.com
LINK
Miami Chapter
Kevin Cartier '06
president@pennstatemiami.com
LINK
Naples Chapter
Dave Feight '64
4255 Gulf Shore Blvd. N
Apt. 205
Naples, FL 34103-2226
jafdjf@aol.com
LINK
Northwest Florida Chapter
Brian Stabley '98
PO Box 14913
Tallahassee, Florida 32317
president@psutally.com
LINK
Palm Beach County Chapter
Eric Depp '95
8087 Bautista Way
Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33418-8179
eric.depp@53.com
Spacecoast Chapter
Ed Alderfer '71
2449 Windham Drive
Melbourne, FL 32935
edalderfer@gmail.com
LINK
Suncoast Chapter
Chuck Wall
421 Lakeview Drive
Oldsmar, FL 34677
cwall001@tampabay.rr.com
LINK
Tampa Chapter
Dennis Meyers '95
8001 N. Dale Mabry Hwy.
Suite 401C
Tampa, FL 33614
dennis@meyerslawpa.com
dennismeyers95@yahoo.com
LINK
Treasure Coast Chapter
Kenneth DeAngelis '61
1960 NE Jensen Beach Blvd.
Jensen Beach, FL 34957
psuken@msn.com
LINK
Tri-County Chapter of Central Florida
Mark Greenwald '64
3091 Southern Trace
The Villages, FL 32162
mgreenwald5@comcast.net
LINK
To learn more about joining or starting an Alumni Group contact the Association's Volunteer Services team at alumni-relations@psu.edu or 1-800-548-5466, option 3.
Central Florida Chapter
Katie Bartoo '92
C/O Broad and Cassel
390 N. Orange Ave., Ste. 1400
Orlando, FL 32801-4961
kbartoo@broadandcassel.com
LINK
Daytona-Palm Coast Chapter
Robert Walls '88
41 East Diamond Drive
Palm Coast, FL 32164
rwalls7@cfl.rr.com
LINK
Emerald Coast Chapter
Stan Allsopp '70
4535 Deerfield Drive
Pensacola, FL 32526-4300
psuflorida@cox.net
LINK
Fort Lauderdale Chapter
Ken Ortner '75
1613 NE 5th Court
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301
kaoftlaud@psualum.com
LINK
Fort Myers Chapter
Bruce Edelson '61
14353 Devington Way
Fort Myers, FL 33908
bruceedelson@yahoo.com
LINK
Gulf Coast Chapter
Janet Arena '62
4631 Oak Hill Drive
Sarasota, FL 34232
jarena14@comcast.net
LINK
Jacksonville Chapter
Josiah Pritchard '96
525 3rd Street, N
#413
Jacksonville Beach, FL 32250
jxp31@yahoo.com
LINK
Miami Chapter
Kevin Cartier '06
president@pennstatemiami.com
LINK
Naples Chapter
Dave Feight '64
4255 Gulf Shore Blvd. N
Apt. 205
Naples, FL 34103-2226
jafdjf@aol.com
LINK
Northwest Florida Chapter
Brian Stabley '98
PO Box 14913
Tallahassee, Florida 32317
president@psutally.com
LINK
Palm Beach County Chapter
Eric Depp '95
8087 Bautista Way
Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33418-8179
eric.depp@53.com
Spacecoast Chapter
Ed Alderfer '71
2449 Windham Drive
Melbourne, FL 32935
edalderfer@gmail.com
LINK
Suncoast Chapter
Chuck Wall
421 Lakeview Drive
Oldsmar, FL 34677
cwall001@tampabay.rr.com
LINK
Tampa Chapter
Dennis Meyers '95
8001 N. Dale Mabry Hwy.
Suite 401C
Tampa, FL 33614
dennis@meyerslawpa.com
dennismeyers95@yahoo.com
LINK
Treasure Coast Chapter
Kenneth DeAngelis '61
1960 NE Jensen Beach Blvd.
Jensen Beach, FL 34957
psuken@msn.com
LINK
Tri-County Chapter of Central Florida
Mark Greenwald '64
3091 Southern Trace
The Villages, FL 32162
mgreenwald5@comcast.net
LINK
To learn more about joining or starting an Alumni Group contact the Association's Volunteer Services team at alumni-relations@psu.edu or 1-800-548-5466, option 3.
Posted on 5/18/12 at 12:11 pm to KillianRussell
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Blah Blah Blah 100% of the nations 99th largest tv market !
But you've got 1% of the nation's largest market!
Posted on 5/18/12 at 12:12 pm to KillianRussell
well this thread took an interesting turn
Posted on 5/18/12 at 12:12 pm to engie
And PSU only has three Alumni Assoc. in Florida
Posted on 5/18/12 at 12:14 pm to engie
FWIW, I'm very interested in what the new SEC TV deals will come to. My guess:
-$25-$30mil per team for the renegotiated CBS/ESPN deals
-$5mil+ for the SEC network, with potential to grow to over $10mil
...Conservatively putting every SEC team over $30mil per year in TV revenue and potentially over $40mil per year in TV revenue
Which will basically be the death-blow to ACC football schools that are in "competition" with SEC schools....basically forcing FSU and Clemson and VaTech's hands into moving to the Big12/SEC
-$25-$30mil per team for the renegotiated CBS/ESPN deals
-$5mil+ for the SEC network, with potential to grow to over $10mil
...Conservatively putting every SEC team over $30mil per year in TV revenue and potentially over $40mil per year in TV revenue
Which will basically be the death-blow to ACC football schools that are in "competition" with SEC schools....basically forcing FSU and Clemson and VaTech's hands into moving to the Big12/SEC
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