re: Tua or Mac? Waddle Weighs In

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You laugh. But Tua never made it through a season healthy as a starter.

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Nobody makes it through a season healthy as a starter, but Tua did start most , if not of all 2018 IIRC

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I believe he came in that game off the bench and we mounted a decent come back but it wasn't enough. The team rallied around him.

Tua didn't do that.

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Huh?

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Lol, there’s no bad blood. They were being honest, and trying to help Mac out. Most mocks have Mac in the bottom half of round 1/ early 2

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Are you reading Mocks from December? Most have him now going in the top 15 at least.

Tua was a great Q*BERT at Bama but Mac was better and it’s no contest. Tua just could not stay on the field. Injuries really hurt him in his time at Bama. It probably cost him on being the 1 or 2nd pick in the draft. He missed to many games and had to play in many more banged up and it let some other slip up on him and take that spot from him. Mac had no such problems. Mac had a bigger body so he could take some hits but Mac is way better at checking the ball down and just taking what the defensive gave him so he stayed healthy. Tua was always holding on to the ball way to long and it cost him a lot of extra punishment so he stayed injured more.

I'm so glad someone else can read the stats and see this. If sunshine had Mac's numbers they would name the Heisman after him.

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Jacksonville has a big rebuilding project ahead and they’re doing so with a complete unknown at HC in terms of the pro level.

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Meyer couldn't handle the slightest adversity at Florida and Ohio State. Hard to imagine him being up to the challenge of pulling an NFL franchise out of the basement.

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Tua was a great Q*BERT at Bama but Mac was better and it’s no contest. Tua just could not stay on the field. Injuries really hurt him in his time at Bama. It probably cost him on being the 1 or 2nd pick in the draft. He missed to many games and had to play in many more banged up and it let some other slip up on him and take that spot from him. Mac had no such problems. Mac had a bigger body so he could take some hits but Mac is way better at checking the ball down and just taking what the defensive gave him so he stayed healthy. Tua was always holding on to the ball way to long and it cost him a lot of extra punishment so he stayed injured more.

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Everyone is more than welcome to their own opinion, but I saw Tua in 3 different OC's schemes. That's 3 OCs in 3 seasons, dude. When he was a freshman, he was deadly and often came into games and did what Jalen Hurts couldn't do. In the NC, Brian Daboll had him balanced and finding 2nd and 3rd reads in the greatest comeback Bama fans have ever seen with everything at stake. It took 2 complete quarters to get back in that game, not just OT.

Mike Lockley was dynamic through the air. So much so that Tua never saw the 4th quarter, until the LSU game. Never saw the 4th quarter and a lot of time a good bit of the 3rd quarter as well, as Saban was playing musical chairs with Hurts. trying to keep two guys happy will do that. Make no mistake BAMA fans there went the Heisman, period. Locksley, couldn't establish a running game that just took over and plowed through the red zone. Clemson was ample evidence of that in 2018. Brian Daboll could, and did, with Tua in the second half against Georgia. It was Najee Harris that was running all over the dawgs in the 4th quarter. The offense was balanced. Why just remember 2nd and 26 with Tua?

I remember what Sark did with Jalen Hurts as OC vs Clemson in 2016. It wasn't pretty. Punting 11 times in a game never is. Frankly, he had a better 2nd season than 1st, after Sark returned for a second campaign, getting the running game going. We stayed balanced and in the red zone, Najee destroyed teams all season. But the stuff we ran this season wasn't the same balance we saw in 2019.

Brian Daboll did the best in keeping things balanced with Tua. But he had to be one frustrated puppy not being able to get Tua in the game to run his offense when Jalen hit those dry spots. Especially the Barner game. After the NC vs Georgia in 2017, Brian Daboll couldn't get back to the NFL fast enough.

Tua had a great half of football that none of us will ever forget in 2017.

But he never led a team the entire season to the national championship.

Jones did.
GMAC did.
AJ did x2.
Coker did(largely).

We all thought after 2017 that we were in for 3 NCs in a row and two heisman trophies.

So his era will be marked with incredible highs (2017), then controversy (Hurts), and ultimately a lot of flashy stats.

Tua's biggest problem was living to fight the next play--either from trying to do too much on one play (he was good for a few WTF? plays), or not knowing when to get rid of the ball to preserve himself.

Mac was very good at understanding this.

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That’s a non factor imo. He’s plenty mobile enough in the pocket. Running for first downs isn’t necessary.

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Non factor won't fly when he goes to the NFL. He played in the back of an All World offensive line! Do I think he is a good QB, yes I do and I think he will be a good NFL QB with a very good chance of being very good.

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In my time watching Bama, since early 70s, I'd put mccarron at one, just a little bit ahead of Mac. Mccarron was a field General, smart, the fiercest competitor I've seen and threw a great ball

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I agree with most except this. AJ does not process what’s happening on the field quickly enough and holds the ball a bit too long. He did it at Bama and he does it at the professional level. It’s what separates starting NFL QBs from backups which is where he is.
I think Mac is better in this area than AJ and Tua.

Brady and Manning are non factors with their legs and are HoFers. Big Ben is a non factor with his legs and he might be a HoFer.

Mobility isn’t a necessity.