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Time for everyone to get their panties in a wad : S&P+ Rankings are out
Posted on 9/4/18 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 9/4/18 at 4:51 pm
These are computers, these are not humans, nobody voted on this. Just to get that out of the way.
The data early in the season starts with mostly preseason data and then as the weeks go on in season data is added until around week 4 or 5 the preseason data is all gone. So, this is still a lot of preseason stuff plus very small amounts on in-season data. Still, a lot of changes for some teams from the original preseason rankings (LSU moved up 15-20 spots I believe).
Football Outsiders - 2018 NCAA S&P+ Stats
OVERALL
1. Alabama
5. Georgia
6. Mississippi State
7. Auburn
9. LSU
19. Florida
21. Texas A&M
25. Ole Miss
28. Missouri
30. South Carolina
41. Arkansas
42. Vanderbilt
63. Kentucky
104. Tennessee
OFFENSE
6. Ole Miss
9. Alabama
10. Missouri
13. Mississippi State
18. Georgia
36. South Carolina
37. Tennessee
38. Florida
41. Auburn
48. Texas A&M
55. Arkansas
66. Vanderbilt
83. LSU
100. Kentucky
DEFENSE
1. LSU
10. Auburn
11. Alabama
19. Georgia
26. Texas A&M
28. Mississippi State
29. Florida
32. Kentucky
43. Vanderbilt
44. South Carolina
52. Arkansas
80. Missouri
82. Ole Miss
121. Tennessee
The data early in the season starts with mostly preseason data and then as the weeks go on in season data is added until around week 4 or 5 the preseason data is all gone. So, this is still a lot of preseason stuff plus very small amounts on in-season data. Still, a lot of changes for some teams from the original preseason rankings (LSU moved up 15-20 spots I believe).
Football Outsiders - 2018 NCAA S&P+ Stats
OVERALL
1. Alabama
5. Georgia
6. Mississippi State
7. Auburn
9. LSU
19. Florida
21. Texas A&M
25. Ole Miss
28. Missouri
30. South Carolina
41. Arkansas
42. Vanderbilt
63. Kentucky
104. Tennessee
OFFENSE
6. Ole Miss
9. Alabama
10. Missouri
13. Mississippi State
18. Georgia
36. South Carolina
37. Tennessee
38. Florida
41. Auburn
48. Texas A&M
55. Arkansas
66. Vanderbilt
83. LSU
100. Kentucky
DEFENSE
1. LSU
10. Auburn
11. Alabama
19. Georgia
26. Texas A&M
28. Mississippi State
29. Florida
32. Kentucky
43. Vanderbilt
44. South Carolina
52. Arkansas
80. Missouri
82. Ole Miss
121. Tennessee
This post was edited on 9/4/18 at 4:59 pm
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Posted on 9/4/18 at 4:55 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I've probably asked this before but are they only using week 1 data here or does it take into account the prior year?
Posted on 9/4/18 at 4:56 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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These are computers, these are not humans, nobody voted on this. Just to get that out of the way.
And yet somehow it's going to get missed.
Posted on 9/4/18 at 4:56 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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These are computers, these are not humans, nobody voted on this.
George, you know that is complete BS because after only 1 week the "opponent adjusted" is based off human preseason assumptions
Posted on 9/4/18 at 4:56 pm to JesusQuintana
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I've probably asked this before but are they only using week 1 data here or does it take into account the prior year?
Starts with preseason data and then as the weeks go on starts replacing it with more and more in-season data
So, it's some returning starters/etc stuff and some in-season data until around week 4-5 I think.
Posted on 9/4/18 at 4:57 pm to GenesChin
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George, you know that is complete BS because after only 1 week the "opponent adjusted" is based off human preseason assumptions
That is actually true, yes, but all of that is based on returning starters and other filler data from the preseason.
The point is it's not a human being power ranking, which we end up having 675 discussions about every week.
Posted on 9/4/18 at 4:58 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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That is actually true, yes, but all of that is based on returning starters and other filler data from the preseason.
Posted on 9/4/18 at 5:01 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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63. Kentucky
104. Tennessee
41 spaces between them, and not in the Vols favor
Who would ever have thought that a decade ago
Posted on 9/4/18 at 5:02 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Changes from Preseason to Week 1
Vanderbilt +37
Florida +14
LSU +6
Ole Miss +3
Missouri +3
Alabama +2
Texas A&M +2
Auburn -1
Kentucky +1
Georgia (0)
South Carolina -1
Arkansas -1
Tennessee -34
Vanderbilt, LSU, Florida and Tennessee are the only ones who really did something that drastically shifted the preseason expectations in Week 1. And it will all shift a lot more over the next few weeks.
My guess would be Tennessee was getting some puff based on recruiting rankings or something. That fall seems drastic, even for them.
Vanderbilt +37
Florida +14
LSU +6
Ole Miss +3
Missouri +3
Alabama +2
Texas A&M +2
Auburn -1
Kentucky +1
Georgia (0)
South Carolina -1
Arkansas -1
Tennessee -34
Vanderbilt, LSU, Florida and Tennessee are the only ones who really did something that drastically shifted the preseason expectations in Week 1. And it will all shift a lot more over the next few weeks.
My guess would be Tennessee was getting some puff based on recruiting rankings or something. That fall seems drastic, even for them.
This post was edited on 9/4/18 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 9/4/18 at 5:04 pm to SummerOfGeorge
So if I understand correctly, this is completely useless until week four or five?
Posted on 9/4/18 at 5:05 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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104. Tennessee
I don't think Bill Connenly knows what he's doing if his formula thinks Tennessee is this good.
Posted on 9/4/18 at 5:05 pm to OleManDixon
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So if I understand correctly, this is completely useless until week four or five?
I wouldn't say completely useless, but it's not 100% a measure of in-season performance until then, no.
It's worth looking at along with all the other ones, though.
Posted on 9/4/18 at 5:06 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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6. Mississippi State
Big Six
Posted on 9/4/18 at 5:06 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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I don't think Bill Connenly knows what he's doing if his formula thinks Tennessee is this good.
100. Western Michigan
101. Western Kentucky
102. Illinois
103. Charlotte
104. Tennessee
Sheesh
Posted on 9/4/18 at 5:08 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I'm surprised Hawaii is at 119
Posted on 9/4/18 at 5:08 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Tennessee too high.
Posted on 9/4/18 at 5:10 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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I'm surprised Hawaii is at 119
Well they started at 129, so they've already jumped 10 spots. And Colorado State is a dumpster fire.
Posted on 9/4/18 at 5:20 pm to SummerOfGeorge
At first glance, looks legit.
But I'll take it.
But I'll take it. 
Posted on 9/4/18 at 5:28 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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OFFENSE
6. Ole Miss
9. Alabama
10. Missouri
13. Mississippi State
18. Georgia
36. South Carolina
37. Tennessee
38. Florida
41. Auburn
48. Texas A&M
55. Arkansas
66. Vanderbilt
83. LSU
Joe Burrow and I call bullshite on this.
Posted on 9/4/18 at 5:34 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Tennessee is too high
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