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re: Tiger Rag goes full commie and publishes Coach O's 1992 restraining order

Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:59 am to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52183 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:59 am to
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 If the petition is granted, a “permanent” order is put into place, but “permanent” doesn’t necessarily mean forever. Looks like Orgeron’s motioned the court to dissolve the order after a year had passed and that motion was granted, likely as a matter of law.


This is likely what happened, his move back to Louisiana likely helped his motion.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64415 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:59 am to
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That's arse backwards. A protection order should remain in place indefinitely, The burden and expense of getting it rescinded should fall on the restrained party.

This is my area of law I practice and I can tell you protection orders are abused more than anything I see on a daily basis. Some judges grant these things without good cause all the time. What’s arse backwards is how many other rights these things affect and how seemingly easy they can be to get sometimes. They’re used as leverage in divorce and custody situations all the damn time.

I watched a kid get one entered against him. He was in NY his girlfriend in TN. She broke up with him via text message. All he did was plead with her not to break up with him like 20 year olds tend to do. She asked him to stop contacting her. He tried calling her once, she didn’t answer. A protection order was granted for....stalking.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 12:11 pm
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:59 am to
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Permanent probably doesn’t mean what you think it does. When you petition the court for a protection order, typically an ex parte temporary protection order is put in place until there is a hearing. A hearing is then required within 15 days of the temp order being entered. If the petition is granted, a “permanent” order is put into place, but “permanent” doesn’t necessarily mean forever. Looks like Orgeron’s motioned the court to dissolve the order after a year had passed and that motion was granted, likely as a matter of law.


Thank you for dropping some actual legal knowledge in this trolltastic shitstorm.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52183 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:00 pm to
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That's arse backwards. A protection order should remain in place indefinitely, The burden and expense of getting it rescinded should fall on the restrained party, not on the protected victim to extend the order.


These are the guidelines in Florida:

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 “Final judgments” for protection against violence, commonly known as “permanent injunctions,” remain in effect until modified or dissolved by the court. Therefore, at the court’s discretion, the injunction may be indefinite or expire on a date certain. Petitioners should request the duration of the injunction they are seeking at the time of final hearing.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:06 pm to
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We can try and see


It's good that you admit that you live in your sister's trailer.

Acceptance is an important step in The Process.

Just remember the most important step in The Process:
Stay the frick away from Uncle Tommy.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90404 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:08 pm to
Its relevant because it proves a pattern of behavior. Not looking good for O or LSU
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52183 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:10 pm to
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Its relevant because it proves a pattern of behavior. Not looking good for O or LSU






Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64415 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:12 pm to
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Its relevant because it proves a pattern of behavior. Not looking good for O or LSU

I know it’s time to pile onto LSU right now but a protection order entered almost 20 years before Orgeron ever worked at LSU that is a matter of public record does not show a pattern of LSU trying to cover up sexual misconduct. His prior criminal charges/convictions aren’t even admissible at this point in a court of law. And if your stance is it shows a pattern they didn’t care about his past, well neither did the Saints, USC, Ole Miss, Tennessee, etc

I also think there are a lot of SOL concerns with Sharon Lewis’ lawsuit.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 12:19 pm
Posted by Miznoz
St. Louis
Member since Dec 2018
2127 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:13 pm to
dude let me tell you something. it is so fricking easy to go your whole life with out a restraining order that to get one on you is pathetic.

you all are clearly backing these dudes are clearly basement swelling fricks with no daughter or hope even hope of having kids
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:19 pm to
I just hate to see Special ED and LSU get drug through the mud like this!
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:21 pm to
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you all are clearly backing these dudes


So did USC, Ole Miss and Tennessee among others.

Nothing that was published today was new news. It's just the actual court documents.

Ed's troubles in 91/92 were already well known.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:30 pm to
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Acceptance is an important step in The Process.


Again, I'd be more worried over the process these many investigations are undertaking than what some poster thinks.

But then y'all certainly didn't get here by being intelligent.

Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:30 pm to
Catholics vs. Convicts was more real than we originally thought.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36283 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:32 pm to
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Catholics vs. Convicts was more real than we originally thought.


Did you miss the whole aspect of UM players robbing students?

I still went to the games
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17844 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:49 pm to
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His prior criminal charges/convictions aren’t even admissible at this point in a court of law.

They absolutely are admissible. Say he commits another DV, absolutely will be used against him. Gets found with a firearm, the lautenberg amendment will do him in.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11654 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:51 pm to
Better just drive on past this train wreck
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17844 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:58 pm to
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The original order was a permanent injunction that was later rescinded.

Hey sidewalk lawyer... why does this court document have an expiration date of 5-7-92 on the protective order? I thought it was permanent.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52183 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:01 pm to
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Hey sidewalk lawyer... why does this court document have an expiration date of 5-7-92 on the protective order? I thought it was permanent.



Thats the technical term for it.

In Florida, a permanent injunction is valid forever unless otherwise stated by the court.

Also, because I'm a sidewalk lawyer

Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:18 pm to
GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY!


Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:22 pm to
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Gets found with a firearm, the lautenberg amendment will do him in.


Unless I missed it, he was never convicted of domestic violence, and the protection order was rescinded in 1992. He's good to go under that law.

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