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This is getting ridiculous (SEC Office dealing with transfers)

Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:01 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:01 pm
So still haven't heard from the SEC on Joey Gatewood (NCAA has approved).

Then this drops today, apparently the NCAA cleared Wake Forest BB player Oliver Sarr TWO MONTHS AGO to allow his UK transfer and UK is still waiting on the SEC to approve it.

What the frick is going on in the SEC Offices?

Sea of Blue Article on the Oliver Sarr situation
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:02 pm to
All coaches, I believe including yours, voted on the rules for sec in conference transfers.
Posted by lewis and herschel
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:03 pm to
Sankey was clear in a recent news conference that all members voted on the transfer rules, and would have to vote again to change them. He will rule based on the conference voted precedent.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:04 pm to
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All coaches, I believe including yours, voted on the rules for sec in conference transfers.


There's no rule holding Gatewood up. Auburn isn't attempting to hold anything up on that transfer.
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:04 pm to
They haven't ruled on Mays either or a host of others. Sankey too busy watching Netflix.
Posted by lewis and herschel
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:06 pm to
It's a rule, you don't get to bypass it. Sankey said as much.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:08 pm to
No one said they want to bypass the waiver.

There's nothing keeping the SEC from getting its shite together to rule on the waiver. It's apparently been months. On both.
Posted by Dawgfanman
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:09 pm to
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There's no rule holding Gatewood up. Auburn isn't attempting to hold anything up on that transfer.


My understanding is Gatewood/Mayes/Otis are all waiting on exceptions to the rule requiring they sit a year when transferring to another SEC school. A rule, supported and voted on by all SEC athletic departments. How Auburn feels might influence them making an exception, but it is a rule they want to not have enforced in this case.
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:11 pm to
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There's nothing keeping the SEC from getting its shite together to rule on the waiver. It's apparently been months. On both.


It's a year of free eligibility. The conference is gonna look stupid as hell if they don't pass a rule allowing everyone eligibility this season and that may well be what the hold up is. Getting everyone to vote Friday on a one-time/emergency rule.
Posted by Dawgfanman
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:12 pm to
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It's a year of free eligibility. The conference is gonna look stupid as hell if they don't pass a rule allowing everyone eligibility this season and that may well be what the hold up is. Getting everyone to vote Friday on a one-time/emergency rule


This should happen. It’s a free year for everyone.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:14 pm to
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So still haven't heard from the SEC on Joey Gatewood (NCAA has approved).

What could the SEC do if a team decided to suit up and a play a player who has been cleared by the NCAA but not the SEC? The player wouldn't be ineligible as far as the NCAA concerned, so what would be the recourse here? I'm sure there is something in the bylaws about this, but what it is? A fine? If I'm Kentucky or Tennessee with players who have been cleared by the NCAA, I may think about telling Sankey to shove it. And it really makes no sense why he's being so cavalier about this issue in this unusual season.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 4:16 pm
Posted by themicah85
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:16 pm to
There seems to be a common theme in this thread.
Posted by sand mountainDvalues
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:16 pm to
In a year where no player will be losing a year of eligibility, it only makes sense that the SEC should uphold this bizarre ruling.


Now what is stopping Kentucky, VOLS, Ole Miss, etc. from playing those players in a year where eligibility doesn’t exist?
Posted by gladchiefisgone
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:19 pm to
This issue is players transferring from one SEC school to another...Different from transferring OOC. It's why the USC QB to UGA was approved etc.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:19 pm to
Without no, yes doesn't matter. I personally hate the idea of interconference transfers. Unless you are a graduate.

The trouble is when you make anything the exception to the rule, the rule seldom holds up.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:20 pm to
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What could the SEC do if a team decided to suit up and a play a player who has been cleared by the NCAA but not the SEC? The player wouldn't be ineligible as far as the NCAA concerned, so what would be the recourse here? I'm sure there is something in the bylaws about this, but what it is? A fine? If I'm Kentucky or Tennessee with players who have been cleared by the NCAA, I may think about telling Sankey to shove it. And it really makes no sense why he's being so cavalier about this issue in this unusual season.



I mean, I don't want to give up games for playing a backup QB (which is probably what the rule is for playing an SEC ineligible player). We're alright without Gatewood now that we have multiple, healthy QBs.

It just seems ridiculous that they've sat on it for so long.
Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:21 pm to
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All coaches, I believe including yours, voted on the rules for sec in conference transfers.


There’s a rule about how long you have to wait for an answer?
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:22 pm to
The rule voted on by member schools was that an inner conference transfer must sit a year. There has to be some kind of mitigating circumstances presented to the SEC for each individual player if the rule is to be waived and the player cleared to play.

SEC maybe dicking around, because they could've easily called for another vote on the initial rule and choose to make exceptions for the 2020 season.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64422 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:26 pm to
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The rule voted on by member schools was that an inner conference transfer must sit a year. There has to be some kind of mitigating circumstances presented to the SEC for each individual player if the rule is to be waived and the player cleared to play.

I know what the rule is. What's I'm asking is what happens if a school or schools decide not to follow it. What is the "punishment"?
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SEC maybe dicking around, because they could've easily called for another vote on the initial rule and choose to make exceptions for the 2020 season.

Correct, and in a COVID19 affected season where even the NCAA said "frick it" and decided not to count this year against anyone's eligibility, what exactly is the point of Sankey being so dismissive and disinterested about this issue right now? He seems to say, "well, there's a rule, so I'm not gonna do anything about it unless the rule changes." That just shows laughable leadership on his part, not that I should be overly surprised in that regard, I guess. These petitions for waivers have been pending for MONTHS, and he's just been sitting on his hands. No answer, either way, just silence.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 4:28 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30165 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 4:26 pm to
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There’s a rule about how long you have to wait for an answer?

SEC office dicking around. Like what the hell have they been busy doing since sports shut the frick down during March Madness?
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