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re: There won't be PODS
Posted on 7/25/21 at 11:52 am to coachcrisp
Posted on 7/25/21 at 11:52 am to coachcrisp
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That's 11 conference games per year(very exciting), BUT if that can't pass, play 9 conference games and every non-division team every 4 years
Full agreement on your division
realignment---but no way in hell would/should there be
11 conference games.
Meanwhile, because we already have a UT (Tennessee),
Texas should be referred to as UTAustin.
Frick Texas & Their Castrated Cow Bevo
Posted on 7/25/21 at 12:10 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
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Mine also. The true nightmare is if they do a 7 div 1 perm 1 rotating , meaning it will take 14 years to get through a home and home rotation. Don’t put it past them. The current rotation already takes 12 years. It has just never seemed like the powers that be value a schedule that sees all the teams play each other more often.
There is an easy solution if the SEC wants this..
Texas - West
Oklahoma - East
They are permanent rivals and the schedule plays just as it did in 2019.. but with 9 SEC games instead of 8..
Texas vs A&M - check
Texas vs Oklahoma - check
Oklahoma vs Missouri - check
Makes the East more competitive - check
I could see them doing this in 2022 and 2023 just to have a smoother transition.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 1:55 pm to JKChesterton
quote:I would have no problem with this scenario...simple, fair and a rotation that couldn't be improved upon...I'm in with this, too!............although I'd still love to see an 11-game SEC schedule with every Saturday being a big one in multiple places!
A second option is no Divisions and a 3 team permanent and 6 team rotation, etc, where the 3 team permanent would look like for example for Alabama (Auburn, TENN and somebody else).
Auburn would be (Bama/UGA and say TENN), etc
Posted on 7/25/21 at 2:08 pm to Slackaveli
Only fair way IMO is to put the newest 4 together in a pod. Some teams wont play annually but they will atleast play every other year. Its the fairest way for everyone except aggie or mizzou. But tough titties. Last to join
Auburn and uga can play on one of their open dates in odd years
Auburn and uga can play on one of their open dates in odd years
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 7/25/21 at 2:10 pm to BigBro
Why not OU west and texas east?
Posted on 7/25/21 at 2:23 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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There won't be PODS
Only fair way IMO is to put the newest 4 together in a pod. Some teams wont play annually but they will atleast play every other year. Its the fairest way for everyone except aggie or mizzou. But tough titties. Last to join
Auburn and uga can play on one of their open dates in odd years
Ok, again, how much do some LSU fans not realize that 4 games are non-negotiable 1)Auburn/UGA is one of them, as is 2)Bama/Auburn, 3) Florida/UGA and 4) Bama/TENN.
When OU and Texas come in, Texas/OU will be played and yes, Texas A&M and Texas. There are other games that will be played but don't have the panache as these do, i.e. in-state games such as Ole Miss/Miss. State and TENN/Vandy. Those games under any scheduling scenario will be played, if you have PODS, Ole Miss and MISS. State are in a POD and TENN/Vandy are in one. If you do Divisions, those teams will be in the same division.
So 4 4 team PODS without a permanent cross-POD team are not going to work. Period. There is no POD scenario that you can get all the 4 historic non-negotiable SEC games.
So any scheduling format that is put forth will ensure that the 4 Historic SEC non negotiable games are played and that Texas and OU play and Texas and Texas A&M play.
That is why personally, do away with Divisions, go to the 3 permanent teams + 6 rotating for 9 games for years 1 and 2, then rotate on the other 6 teams for years 3 and 4, top 2 teams winning % wise go to Atlanta and play for the SEC title game, the winner getting the automatic into the playoff with the Bye and likely #1 Seed.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 2:27 pm to JKChesterton
They can play those games on their open date if they mean so much. Just wont count in conf standings
Posted on 7/25/21 at 2:30 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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e won't be PODS
They can play those games on their open date if they mean so much. Just wont count in conf standings
How old exactly are you? The chances of that happening rang from zero to negative infinity.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 2:34 pm to JKChesterton
If we're gonna let Texas in, at least we get them yearly. We hate them already. Old rivalry renewed. It would be more enjoyable than manufactured rival Mizzou. Not enough history and bad blood there. Was getting there with LSU, but that's gone.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 2:41 pm to SmackoverHawg
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There won't be PODS
If we're gonna let Texas in, at least we get them yearly. We hate them already. Old rivalry renewed. It would be more enjoyable than manufactured rival Mizzou. Not enough history and bad blood there. Was getting there with LSU, but that's gone.
The Arkansas game is a good game, but I don't think it will factor into LSU's schedule as a game that should be lets say in a 3 team permanent opponent group. Don't mean that to be disrespectful it is just the reality of the situation.
Arkansas has been in the league now for 30 years been a good league member. I think LSU would work with your ADMIN to ensure Arkansas plays Texas every year. I am sure there is going to be discussions and negotiations.
I think if the league goes to 3 permanent and 6 rotating, LSU's permanents will be Ole Miss, long history of the game and for segments of LSU's older fanbase, it has rival game elements (large segment of Ole Miss fans as well). I think the LSU/Texas A&M game will be in it.
The 3rd game will I think be either Miss. State (team we have 2nd most history with) or Florida (I would say a rival sort of game for both LSU and Florida, for Florida 2nd biggest SEC rival game behind UGA).
Posted on 7/25/21 at 2:42 pm to SmackoverHawg
Jk, I came to the same conclusion.
You just don’t throw away traditions when their is a logical alternative.
LSU - Alabama, A&M, and Ole Miss
Alabama - Auburn, LSU, Tennessee
Florida - Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky
Auburn - Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi State
A&M - LSU, Texas, South Carolina
Texas - Oklahoma, A&M, Arkansas
Oklahoma - Texas, Missouri, Arkansas
Arkansas - Texas, Ole Miss, Oklahoma
Tennessee - Alabama, Florida, Vandy
Ole Miss - LSU, Mississippi State, Arkansas
Mississippi State - Ole Miss, Auburn, Missouri
South Carolina - Georgia, Kentucky, A&M
Georgia - Florida, Auburn, South Carolina
Kentucky - Florida, South Carolina, Vanderbilt
Vanderbilt - Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri
Missouri - Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma
*All major games with high TV ratings permanent.
*3 + 6 model. 9-game schedule.
*Play every SEC team every 2-years. Host every 4-years.
It’s only 3 games to insure the matchups most want to see.
You just don’t throw away traditions when their is a logical alternative.
LSU - Alabama, A&M, and Ole Miss
Alabama - Auburn, LSU, Tennessee
Florida - Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky
Auburn - Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi State
A&M - LSU, Texas, South Carolina
Texas - Oklahoma, A&M, Arkansas
Oklahoma - Texas, Missouri, Arkansas
Arkansas - Texas, Ole Miss, Oklahoma
Tennessee - Alabama, Florida, Vandy
Ole Miss - LSU, Mississippi State, Arkansas
Mississippi State - Ole Miss, Auburn, Missouri
South Carolina - Georgia, Kentucky, A&M
Georgia - Florida, Auburn, South Carolina
Kentucky - Florida, South Carolina, Vanderbilt
Vanderbilt - Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri
Missouri - Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma
*All major games with high TV ratings permanent.
*3 + 6 model. 9-game schedule.
*Play every SEC team every 2-years. Host every 4-years.
It’s only 3 games to insure the matchups most want to see.
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 7/25/21 at 2:51 pm to Slackaveli
It’s cute that slack thinks Arkansas controls this.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 2:52 pm to Mizz-SEC
quote:LOL! Dude, no. Those are border states to Arkansas, not to Mizzou. JFC.
If anything Mizzou should be in the LSU-OM-MSY pod, but if it has to happen I'd enjoy UT-OU-MU-Ark. It's balance and regional.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 2:53 pm to G2160
quote:Holy shite the Aggy says WUT? Cry less, Bitchboi.
Stop crying all over the board about it. You scared?
Posted on 7/25/21 at 2:56 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:EXACTLY
Only fair way IMO is to put the newest 4 together in a pod. Some teams wont play annually but they will atleast play every other year. Its the fairest way for everyone except aggie or mizzou. But tough titties. Last to join
Posted on 7/25/21 at 3:00 pm to djsdawg
quote:I don't, I just know we had some leverage and there is no way all the noobs like aggie and mizzou get preferred treatment over Arkansas.
It’s cute that slack thinks Arkansas controls this.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 3:01 pm to Slackaveli
Two divisions makes total sense.
Pods are a headache especially with regards to tiebreakers for champ game. Pods also would not allow all rivalry games to take place.
Pods are a headache especially with regards to tiebreakers for champ game. Pods also would not allow all rivalry games to take place.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 3:02 pm to Slackaveli
What leverage does Arkansas have?
Posted on 7/25/21 at 3:03 pm to SmackoverHawg
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If we're gonna let Texas in, at least we get them yearly. We hate them already. Old rivalry renewed.
This right here. It's unfortunate young Longhorns and Razorbacks don't understand the hate. So excited for this renewed rivalry.
Posted on 7/25/21 at 3:22 pm to G&P
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here won't be PODS
Jk, I came to the same conclusion.
You just don’t throw away traditions when their is a logical alternative.
LSU - Alabama, A&M, and Ole Miss
Alabama - Auburn, LSU, Tennessee
Florida - Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky
Auburn - Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi State
A&M - LSU, Texas, South Carolina
Texas - Oklahoma, A&M, Arkansas
Oklahoma - Texas, Missouri, Arkansas
Arkansas - Texas, Ole Miss, Oklahoma
Tennessee - Alabama, Florida, Vandy
Ole Miss - LSU, Mississippi State, Arkansas
Mississippi State - Ole Miss, Auburn, Missouri
South Carolina - Georgia, Kentucky, A&M
Georgia - Florida, Auburn, South Carolina
Kentucky - Florida, South Carolina, Vanderbilt
Vanderbilt - Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri
Missouri - Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma
*All major games with high TV ratings permanent.
*3 + 6 model. 9-game schedule.
*Play every SEC team every 2-years. Host every 4-years.
It’s only 3 games to insure the matchups most want to see.
G&P: We are on the same page, I don't want to get into it with fellow LSU fans about Bama but while LSU fans think if Bama as "Rival", in the historical context of what a rival is, long standing game like they have with TENN, in-state game like they have with Auburn, both games that Alums, Administrators, former players and coaches and the random side-walk fan in both states view as a rival and that view is held across every generation from 5 year old child to a person living to 100 years old, the LSU game does not meet that definition.
Alabama will get Auburn and TENN and who is their 3rd is questionable. They might want OU and have this blue blood match every year. Maybe Texas? to fill that slot. Maybe it is LSU. But I don't think from their perspective it is a game that has to be played. Why do I say that? Well in the Division format, Alabama and Auburn would have no issues going to the East. Rather than LSU, they get to play UGA and Florida more often and have both TENN and Auburn in their division.
So with all that in mind, I think LSU's 3 would be Ole Miss, Texas A&M and Florida (if they agree to it), maybe Miss. State.
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