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re: There won't be PODS
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:29 pm to Dudebro2
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:29 pm to Dudebro2
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Nope, nope and nope! No possible way that works in the uber-competitive SEC. It will be a nightmare when it comes to tie breakers and the more teams you have the more chances you have of ties!
bullshite. Personally, after head to head considerations, I would be fine with taking the highest ranked. That's what the playoff committee will do, and that should be good for the conference. Of course small minded people can make it more complicated, but it doesn't have to be.
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:29 pm to Slackaveli
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There won't be PODS
Im confident that Pittboss has been drawing support from his allies.
Could be.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:36 pm to Slackaveli
Absolutely. There won't be pods....in any conference. Bama and aub to the east and the sec (after seeing it doable last year with 12 games) will go to 10 conference games. This will keep the sec's best rivalries together and rotate east west division play more often.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:42 pm to Slackaveli
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by Slackaveli
Who you talking to Willis???
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:43 pm to Slackaveli
You will suck the thumb the SEC tells you to suck.
The end.
The end.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:50 pm to TouchdownTony
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There won't be PODS
Absolutely. There won't be pods....in any conference. Bama and aub to the east and the sec (after seeing it doable last year with 12 games) will go to 10 conference games. This will keep the sec's best rivalries together and rotate east west division play more often.
Is this something Alabama media are reporting? I was corresponding with Coachcrisp (Bama fan) and asked him if Cecil Hurt had reported anything yet, he usually has impeccable sources. Unfortunately according to CoachCrisp, Cecil is not reporting much, most of what is being reported from the Bama media is the beat writer that covers the Tide from USA today.
LSU media in Baton Rouge are saying nothing, which I understand, our AD use to be at Texas A&M and while some fans from both sides get crazy here, the LSU and A&M Admin get along well. Also, since LSU is kind of close the situation with Aggie only 4.5 hours West of here, LSU probably should lay low and not say anything to be seen to be getting between this Texas and Texas A&M feud that has gone public. If they are in, we got to get along with both of them, beat them, but get along.
10 games, 7 with 1 permanent cross over and 2 rotate, would work and provide lots of excellent matchups across the board.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:52 pm to TouchdownTony
quote:I'm down. It's going to be exciting times. I loved the 10-game schedule.
Absolutely. There won't be pods....in any conference. Bama and aub to the east and the sec (after seeing it doable last year with 12 games) will go to 10 conference games. This will keep the sec's best rivalries together and rotate east west division play more often.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:53 pm to Dudebro2
quote:Mostly Mizzou and Gaggy fans trying to use Arkansas to shield themselves lol.
Who you talking to Willis???
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:54 pm to Indiana Tiger
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Of course small minded people can make it more complicated, but it doesn't have to be.
lol, lol, lol talk about whistling your own tune! Got bad news for you scooter, if I am “small minded” from your comments you would be absent of a mind at all.
Please explain in detail how keeping it as two divisions by moving Bama/Aub to the East and Mizzou with OU an Texas to the West and going to a 10game SEC schedule doesn’t work better than pods? We are guaranteed to go to 9 SEC games if those two join one more game won’t make a difference! A few schools will have to make a choice do they keep their rivalry OOC games on the schedule or not possibly, but change does affect things going forward.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:56 pm to Slackaveli
The reality of the situation, no one is going to be 100% satisfied when the dust settles. I predict its going to be pods with one permanent match up. As confusing as it is to some its the system with the least impact. Something to remember permanent match-ups were a hair away from being dropped in the past and things are changing rapidly.
Also big OOC matchups are 100% dead.
Also big OOC matchups are 100% dead.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:58 pm to Dudebro2
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Please explain in detail how keeping it as two divisions by moving Bama/Aub to the East and Mizzou with OU an Texas to the West and going to a 10game SEC schedule doesn’t work better than pods?
Easy. Thats probably going to piss of every program in the East and a few in the West.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:00 pm to Slackaveli
Pods or no pods.. sorry OP but that scenario didn’t/wouldn’t ever happen.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:00 pm to kczoutiger
quote:After looking it over some, this one has grown on me. LSU still gets the Bama/Florida games. If you pod them there is the loss of the yearly Bama, Florida, and Auburn games that are our 3 best SEC founding member contests.
getting rid of divisions, each team gets 3 permanent rivals, the remaining 12 teams are rotated every other year which means playing 9 conference games. Then you take the top 2 teams in the standings with whatever tie breakers need to be set in place and they go to Atlanta. This set up keeps traditional rivals and you play every team Home and Away every 4 years.
Alabama: Auburn, Tennessee, LSU
Arkansas: Missouri, Texas, Texas A&M
Auburn: Alabama, Georgia, Miss St
Florida: Georgia, LSU, South Carolina
Georgia: Auburn, Florida, South Carolina
Kentucky: Miss St., Tennessee, Vanderbilt
LSU: Alabama, Florida, Ole Miss
Miss St.: Auburn, Kentucky, Ole Miss
Missouri: Arkansas, Oklahoma, South Carolina
Oklahoma: Missouri, Texas, Texas A&M
Ole Miss: LSU, Miss St., Vanderbilt
South Carolina: Florida, Georgia, Missouri
Tennessee: Alabama, Kentucky, Vanderbilt
Texas: Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M
Texas A&M: Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas
Vanderbilt: Kentucky, Ole Miss, Tennessee
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:23 pm to Slackaveli
SEC (16)
E: GA, FLA, UK, SC, TN, Van, UA, AU
W: LSU, A&M, OM, MS, AR, MO, TX, OK
ACC (16)
N: BC, Syr, Pit, VT, VA, Lville, WVU, ND
S. NC, NCS, DU, WF, CL, GT, FSU, Mia
B1G (16)
E: Rtg, MD, PSU, OSU, UM, MS, IN, Pur
W: NW, IL, WI, MN, Iowa, ISU, Neb, Kan
PAC (16)
N: WA, WS, OR, OS, Stn, Cal, UT, CO
S: SC, UCLA, AZ, AS, TT, TCU, Bay, OkSt
Play 11 conf games (4 cross-div rotational).
E: GA, FLA, UK, SC, TN, Van, UA, AU
W: LSU, A&M, OM, MS, AR, MO, TX, OK
ACC (16)
N: BC, Syr, Pit, VT, VA, Lville, WVU, ND
S. NC, NCS, DU, WF, CL, GT, FSU, Mia
B1G (16)
E: Rtg, MD, PSU, OSU, UM, MS, IN, Pur
W: NW, IL, WI, MN, Iowa, ISU, Neb, Kan
PAC (16)
N: WA, WS, OR, OS, Stn, Cal, UT, CO
S: SC, UCLA, AZ, AS, TT, TCU, Bay, OkSt
Play 11 conf games (4 cross-div rotational).
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:32 pm to TouchdownTony
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Absolutely. There won't be pods....in any conference. Bama and aub to the east and the sec (after seeing it doable last year with 12 games) will go to 10 conference games. This will keep the sec's best rivalries together and rotate east west division play more often.
If there were only two divisions you’d have to go 7 division games with with two interdivisional games. With 8 teams in each division the rotation would be a nightmare especially to protect some cross divisional rivalries. Pods are the only solution to any conference over 14.
Face it mega conferences with playoffs in the conference are coming. 12 team playoffs with mega conferences won’t work.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:34 pm to Slackaveli
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No way the Hogs would agree to a pod with Ou and UT- we didnt join the Big12 for a reason
But what if yall didnt have a choice
. Some will be left very unhappy with this situation and it may very well be yall.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:37 pm to Damathe
LSU - Alabama, A&M, and Ole Miss
Alabama - Auburn, LSU, Tennessee
Florida - Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky
Auburn - Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi State
A&M - LSU, Texas, South Carolina
Texas - Oklahoma, A&M, Arkansas
Oklahoma - Texas, Missouri, Arkansas
Arkansas - Texas, Ole Miss, Oklahoma
Tennessee- Alabama, Florida, Vandy
Ole Miss - LSU, Mississippi State, Arkansas
Mississippi State - Ole Miss, Auburn, Missouri
South Carolina - Georgia, Kentucky, A&M
Georgia - Florida, Auburn, South Carolina
Kentucky- Florida, South Carolina, Vanderbilt
Vanderbilt- Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri
Missouri - Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma
*
Alabama - Auburn, LSU, Tennessee
Florida - Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky
Auburn - Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi State
A&M - LSU, Texas, South Carolina
Texas - Oklahoma, A&M, Arkansas
Oklahoma - Texas, Missouri, Arkansas
Arkansas - Texas, Ole Miss, Oklahoma
Tennessee- Alabama, Florida, Vandy
Ole Miss - LSU, Mississippi State, Arkansas
Mississippi State - Ole Miss, Auburn, Missouri
South Carolina - Georgia, Kentucky, A&M
Georgia - Florida, Auburn, South Carolina
Kentucky- Florida, South Carolina, Vanderbilt
Vanderbilt- Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri
Missouri - Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, Oklahoma
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This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:38 pm to Dudebro2
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Please explain in detail how keeping it as two divisions by moving Bama/Aub to the East and Mizzou with OU an Texas to the West and going to a 10game SEC schedule doesn’t work better than pods?
I've never made an argument for pods. Every post has been an argument against. To be clear, quoting me and then demand that I defend a position I've never taken is stupid.
I'm an advocate of no actual pods or divisions at all. However, virtual pods (mutually agreed permanent games) are used. I haven't considered a ten game schedule (I've only advocated for 9), but it could still be done with 5 permanent and 5 rotating.
I prefer this approach because it leads more balanced schedules across the board, and only the best teams get to the championship game. Things can go awry with divisions (see the west in the 90s and the early aughts and the east in recent years). The two obviously best teams can be stuck in the same division on only one gets to go. This can't happen with the no division model.
The primary reason against this is that a team will earn their way. Practically impossible to luck your way into an easy path. The best teams WILL beat each other up, and may limit a team advancement to the playoffs.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:46 pm to G&P
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Tennessee- Alabama, Florida, Vandy
Not sure if the UF-Tennessee rivalry would survive the change. Tennessee already has 116 meetings with UK, 115 meetings with Vandy, 103 meetings with Alabama, but only 50 meetings in UF.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 9:52 pm to Slackaveli
If you do three permanent opponents apiece, you get something like this:
Oklahoma: Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri
Texas: Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Arkansas
Texas A&M: Texas, Oklahoma, Vanderbilt
Missouri: Oklahoma, Arkansas, South Carolina
Arkansas: Texas, Missouri, South Carolina
LSU: Alabama, Florida, Ole Miss
Ole Miss: LSU, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt
Mississippi State: Auburn, Ole Miss, Kentucky
Alabama: LSU, Auburn, Tennessee
Auburn: Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi State
Tennessee: Alabama, Kentucky, Vanderbilt
Vanderbilt: Texas A&M, Tennessee, Ole Miss
Kentucky: Florida, Mississippi State, Tennessee
South Carolina: Georgia, Arkansas, Missouri
Georgia: Florida, Auburn, South Carolina
Florida: Georgia, LSU, Kentucky
That preserves the vast majority of important games and rivalries, keeps the schedules reasonably balanced, and avoids any need for divisions or pods which will invariably cramp major rivalries.
The only one that's missing is A&M/LSU. You could pair them up, but then you have an awkward OU/FL annual series which while exciting on paper would be a major logistical headache for anyone to travel to. Plus that kills LSU/UF which has traditionally been an important and fun game for both teams, even if not their most important one.
Oklahoma: Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri
Texas: Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Arkansas
Texas A&M: Texas, Oklahoma, Vanderbilt
Missouri: Oklahoma, Arkansas, South Carolina
Arkansas: Texas, Missouri, South Carolina
LSU: Alabama, Florida, Ole Miss
Ole Miss: LSU, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt
Mississippi State: Auburn, Ole Miss, Kentucky
Alabama: LSU, Auburn, Tennessee
Auburn: Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi State
Tennessee: Alabama, Kentucky, Vanderbilt
Vanderbilt: Texas A&M, Tennessee, Ole Miss
Kentucky: Florida, Mississippi State, Tennessee
South Carolina: Georgia, Arkansas, Missouri
Georgia: Florida, Auburn, South Carolina
Florida: Georgia, LSU, Kentucky
That preserves the vast majority of important games and rivalries, keeps the schedules reasonably balanced, and avoids any need for divisions or pods which will invariably cramp major rivalries.
The only one that's missing is A&M/LSU. You could pair them up, but then you have an awkward OU/FL annual series which while exciting on paper would be a major logistical headache for anyone to travel to. Plus that kills LSU/UF which has traditionally been an important and fun game for both teams, even if not their most important one.
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