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Goldtide1
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The targeting call on Battle last night...
The tight end probably had 30-50 pounds on him going full speed. You can’t brace your body backwards and to properly brace it forwards you have to lower your head. If not he would have been run over and risked injuring himself.

The potential of the defensive guys being injured is one of the things that has been overlooked in the development of this targeting rule.

By all means, let’s protect player safety, but if you don’t want to completely remove the targeting call in situations such as last night, let’s develop a 5 yard and 15 yard version of the targeting call focusing on intent much in the same line as the 5 and 15 yard face mask call a few years back. It’s changing too many games, but the main thing is the defensive players’ safety.
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SummerOfGeorge
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
Yea, it sucked, but back 7 guys know they can't lower their head. It's a cardinal rule of new age football. If you lower your head you are asking for targeting.

It's almost impossible to totally control because it is instinctive especially when a guy is a moving target, but it's always going to get called.
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BorrisMart
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
So now, the targeting rules are "problematic"?


SummerOfGeorge
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
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So now, the targeting rules are "problematic"?



The targeting rules suck, but they are what they are.


pvilleguru
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
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The potential of the defensive guys being injured is one of the things that has been overlooked in the development of this targeting rule.

The targeting rule was developed in part to protect defensive players. It was 100% targeting and he was rightfully ejected.
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im4LSU
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Member since Aug 2004
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
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The potential of the defensive guys being injured is one of the things that has been overlooked in the development of this targeting rule


Bull shite.


Look up Chuckie Mullins and tell me putting your head down and absorbing a hit with your neck is the right thing to do.
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Sneaky__Sally
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Member since Jul 2015
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
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So now, the targeting rules are "problematic"?



They have been discussed as problematic since their implementation - most notably the ejection protocol. Do you watch football?

The rule was right as called - I think ejections should be revisited and consider intent and launch as a main factor.

Honestly the NFL rule works better - we should just go with that.
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JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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Member since Nov 2017
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
I assume it is still legal to use the shoulder pads when making a tackle....9 could have leveled that TE had he done just that


BamaGradinTn
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Member since Dec 2008
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
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If not he would have been run over and risked injuring himself.

The potential of the defensive guys being injured is one of the things that has been overlooked in the development of this targeting rule.


Sorry, pal, but this is bull shite. Guys have broken their necks and been paralyzed for life by lowering their heads.


artompkins
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
I thought it was a good call and dumb by battle to do it. Ball would have been knocked loose no matter what and he had help on the play.


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The Spleen
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
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It was 100% targeting and he was rightfully ejected.


Yeah, not sure how anyone can argue otherwise. It's the exact play the rule was put in place to try and prevent. Luckily neither player was seriously injured.



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SummerOfGeorge
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
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Sorry, pal, but this is bull shite. Guys have broken their necks and been paralyzed for life by lowering their heads.



Yep - lowering your head is a bad football play and bad life decision - was before targeting existed too.


BamaGradinTn
Alabama Fan
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Member since Dec 2008
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
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So now, the targeting rules are "problematic"?


The targeting rules suck, but they are what they are.


What sucks is high school coaches being unable and/or unwilling to coach this out of kids.


Goldtide1
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Member since Oct 2018
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
I get that might have been their intent, but I don’t think that’s what has resulted from it. He had two options on that play. Run into him with his head up, which would have resulted him getting run over violently or bracing/contracting his body in the manner in which he did. Maybe he could have positioned his head to the side and hit with shoulder pad but that’s where I think intent must factor into the penalty. There has to be a better balance given in giving out the penalty.
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The Spleen
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
I did think it was odd they didn't at least review the hit on Najee on that pass to him near the goal line. I only saw one play, but the action looked very similar to Battle's.


SummerOfGeorge
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
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What sucks is high school coaches being unable and/or unwilling to coach this out of kids.



I think for the most part it's helped. You don't see nearly as many head lowerings or kill shots as you used to (like, not even close). However, it's going to happen every once in a while.

I'm fine with penalties, I just wish that we had 2 versions of them - intent = ejection, no intent = 15 yard penalty with a 2nd no-intent = ejection.
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pvilleguru
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
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He had two options on that play. Run into him with his head up, which would have resulted him getting run over violently or bracing/contracting his body in the manner in which he did

Bull shite. He had other options. He just didn't opt to do them.


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im4LSU
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Member since Aug 2004
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
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or bracing/contracting his body in the manner in which he did.



And risk rolling around and eating lunch throu a straw for the rest of his life.

Easy decision for most.


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BamaGradinTn
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
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I get that might have been there intent, but I don’t think that’s what has resulted from it. He had two options on that play. Run into him with his head up, which would have resulted him getting run over violently or bracing/contracting his body in the manner in which he did. There has to be a better balance developed between protecting the defensive and offensive players.



Option 3: keep his head up and drive his shoulder into him.

And if he gets run over, he gets run over. That's football. He won't spend the rest of his life in a wheelchair.


Lonnie Utah
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re: The targeting call on Battle last night...
Honestly, I thought that after closing the distance with the TE, Battle stopped and held his ground while the offensive player actually initiated the contact.


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