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re: The SEC’s Top 7 Programs Ranked

Posted on 8/4/20 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by TideFaninFl
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 3:25 pm to
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I guess 66 is same reason


1966, before integration, during the civil rights movement, did not like it that lily white Alabama was destroying everybody on the field. It was politics nothing more, Alabama should have won the 1966 title.
Posted by bamaboy87
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 3:28 pm to
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1966, before integration, during the civil rights movement, did not like it that lily white Alabama was destroying everybody on the field. It was politics nothing more, Alabama should have won the 1966 title.


It was also notre dame love. I think it was 1975 that ND jumped Bama in the final polls after the bowls. Same way miami jumped auburn in 1983
Posted by TideFaninFl
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 3:31 pm to
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I think it was 1975 that ND jumped Bama in the final polls after the bowls


1977 season

Posted by Domeskeller
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 4:13 pm to
OP misspelled “Big 6.”
Posted by bfniii
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 4:50 pm to
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Given that Alabama tends to find very good to great coaches
would that have happened if bear had not been there? you have no idea. bama could very well look like michigan, neb, tenn, tex, etc
Posted by PokeyTiger
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:04 pm to
11 “tainted” Titles pending completion of NCAA football related open investigations
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 6:53 pm
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:33 pm to
Bro you are shitposting all over this thread
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 6:06 pm to
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HOW are you calculating results? LSU is 2nd/4th/4th...but end up 2nd?


LSU has more top ten finishes, more weeks in the AP poll, more all Americans, and more NFL draft picks than either UGA or Tennessee

LSU also has better win % than UGA
Posted by lsusteve1
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:12 pm to
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Given that Alabama tends to find very good to great coaches, Alabama still would have won NCs, maybe not as much, but still would have won some. Alabama has had multiple NC winning coaches, that won multiple NC while at Alabama.


After Stallings, they were on a pretty terrible hiring streak.

RR (or someone besides Saban) probably would have been a crap shoot.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 7:13 am to
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After Stallings, they were on a pretty terrible hiring streak.



I'll grant you Mike DuBose. But his hiring had a lot to do with NCAA sanctions brought about by the Antonio Langham scandal as well as the leadership in both the athletic department (Bob Bockrath) and administration (Andrew Sorenson) at the time. Dennis Franchione was a solid hire and he would have worked out well for us, I think, if not for Albert Means. He got out of there as soon as he could when the extent of the sanctions became known to him. Mike Price was a winner at Washington State and could have worked out in Tuscaloosa but got in trouble with strippers before we could ever find out what he could do. Mike Shula was a desperation hire as it was May 2003 when we fired Price and thus no reputable coach would up and leave at such a late date. When Shula was hired most Alabama fans recognized it for what it was: a placeholder job to get us through probation. After the surprising 10-win season of 2005, there were some who thought Shula could work out, but 2006 sobered us up and he was fired in favor of Saban.

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 9:52 am to
The main thing that has separated Alabama from the rest is going out to hire the best guy they can and not taking no for an answer. LSU has spent most of our history will goofball decision makers making goofball hires. Even when they work out it’s in spite of ourselves.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 10:02 am to
That and the "unrealistic" expectations of the fans. If we aren't competing for the SEC and beating Auburn within 3-4 years of your arrival, you are fired and replaced by someone whom we perceive as better. For whatever reason, the media chastised us for firing Shula after going 26-23 in four seasons. Sure, we were on probation, but the team's problems went far beyond NCAA sanctions. They weren't disciplined and they weren't in particularly good shape. The difference in a lot of those 23 losses was our team's performance (or lack thereof) in the fourth quarter. For instance, in 2003, we had Arkansas dead to rights in the second half. We were up 31-10. They came back to tie it up and won the game in overtime. Four years later, the exact same scenario lines up in Tuscaloosa, but we had the gas to overcome and win in the final seconds. That was the difference.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 10:09 am to
Yeah and I see that at LSU now as well. In the old days most were more or less satisfied with a “good” year like 96 or 97 (10-2 and 9-3, respectively), now the expectation is to be in the NC mix on at least a semi-regular basis, and finishing in the top 10 is the only way to be considered a good year. That does feed on itself and force the coaches/players to hold themselves to a higher standard.
This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 10:10 am
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 10:15 am to
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PokeyTiger


Quit fricking up threads with your bullshite!!! Every time someone tries to have a legit thread talking cfb either you, WT, or cajunbama frick it all up!!

Stop being a childish prick!!
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:08 am to
Ill take it.
Miami
Fsu
Nebraska
Are irrelevant

Florida while good,
won't be pushing for a natty

So if that puts LSU at #2 behind bama I'm okay with that but just remember "WE COMIN'"


Posted by BarnHater
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:23 am to
Interesting statistics. Really puts in to perspective how much of a second rate program teams like AU are.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:36 am to
Does tennessee deserve #3?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 8/8/20 at 8:46 am to
Using your own data how is UT above UGA?
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
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Posted on 8/8/20 at 9:00 am to
This was a reply to another poster. But this is the reasoning.

Tennessee, Georgia, and Florida are almost interchangeable as programs.

Tennessee and Georgia have 5 more SEC titles than Florida and have been more historically dominant as programs whereas Florida has been pretty average outside of Spurrier and Meyer.

I gave Tennessee the nod over Georgia for having a more recent national title than Georgia and arguably a better history (Although Tennessee has been awful recently, historically they competed with Bama for the #1 program in the SEC)
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/8/20 at 9:04 am to
But UGA has the same number of titles and more bowl wins with your stats. I could understand if they were tied across the board. Not dogging your rankings, just trying to understand more.
This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 9:27 am
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