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re: The Kelly hire feels a lot like the Bielema hire to me.

Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:06 am to
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:06 am to
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Bert was put into a system he didn’t build, the architect of that system was still there and watched over and held his hand.


Bert loved him some vodka, end of story at Arkansas

This post was edited on 12/2/21 at 10:07 am
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50648 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:09 am to
Jimbo can't coach the recruits he has
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:10 am to
Terrible hire. Lazy search by Jeff Long.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21138 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:11 am to
An alcoholic that was way over his head in the SEC. Lost a lot of winnable games.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64468 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:12 am to
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The man has a huge built-in flaw- HE is the OC.

You realize Kelly is a defensive coach by trade right?
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:14 am to
He was in college or high school in 77.
Posted by pointman
new orleans
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 10:46 am to
Hey hog, everyone that goes to that shithole called Arkansas is a turd.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 11:53 am to
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Nope. Bert skipped recruiting visits to go to Vegas.


If Bert did indeed skip out on the grinding work schedule of a successful SEC coach, then, that is a damn shame. That's a DEEP character flaw - being Lazy. If that was indeed the case, that's just not fair to any SEC fan base. If Bert decided that the job was too much work for him, the honorable thing would have been to tell the AD and resign from the job, rather than just be Lazy and keep collecting the pay-check.
Posted by Toroballistic
Tallahassee
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:20 pm to
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So Les Miles and Ed Orgeron would have won a natty at Arkansas too, right?


If they followed Saban at Arkansas.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8044 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 12:27 pm to
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Who did bielema kill?


Arkansas football and the profit margins of Golden Corral.
Posted by Hogfan13
Member since Jul 2019
2944 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 1:06 pm to
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He's a coach that's been pretty successful, but hasn't been anywhere near the SEC slaughter house schedule yet.

LSU does have more instate talent to work with though. I'm really curious how this is going to go.


ETA: Bert did have Alvarez holding his hand during his successful years.


You know, I've been thinking that Kelly was a good hire, but I hadn't thought about that yet. It is an interesting point. There are enough similarities to make you wonder.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 1:43 pm to
Bert was the reason Sam left because he was hurting Sam's reputation in recruiting. Bert was found passed out on his desk. He used to go binge drinking at the Eastside grill in Fayetteville.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 1:44 pm to
Depends on how hungry Kelly is. Bert was fat and content when he took the Arkansas job.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11285 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 1:46 pm to
Arkansas and A&M aren't on our level. Period. It doesn't matter who the coach is. All of them would do better at LSU.

We had our worst team in two decades in each of the past two seasons. Our record over that time is 2-2 against A&M/Arky. Hell Arkansas had to pull out an over time win by a FG.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/2/21 at 1:46 pm to
Only if you started watching college football in 2020.

WHat a shitty comparison
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48262 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:32 pm to
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Bert was the reason Sam left because he was hurting Sam's reputation in recruiting. Bert was found passed out on his desk. He used to go binge drinking at the Eastside grill in Fayetteville.


This is really sad. Hog fans didn't deserve to get hoodwinked by an alcoholic. Bert stole money from ya'll.

I hope he got some help for his alcoholism. THAT is what happened to Bert's tenure - alcoholism. That's why he failed.
Posted by Hogfan13
Member since Jul 2019
2944 posts
Posted on 12/2/21 at 8:57 pm to
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Depends on how hungry Kelly is. Bert was fat and content when he took the Arkansas job


Apparently Bert was really hungry when he got to Fayetteville. He was fat when he left.
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