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ForeverGator
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The Intellectual Rankings of the SEC schools
Since U.S. News came out with their most recent rankings, let's see how the SEC schools are doing.

Best National Universities:
#14 - Vanderbilt
#30 - Florida
#47 - Georgia
#66 - Texas A&M
#97 - Auburn
#112 - Tennessee
#118 - South Carolina
#124 - Missouri
#133 - Kentucky
#143 - Alabama
#153 - LSU
#160 - Arkansas
#160 - Ole Miss
#206 - Miss State

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Top Public Universities:
#6 - Florida
#15 - Georgia
#26 - Texas A&M
#40 - Auburn
#52 - Tennessee
#54 - South Carolina
#60 - Missouri
#62 - Kentucky
#65 - Alabama
#71 - LSU
#77 - Arkansas
#77 - Ole Miss
#105 - Miss State

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TeddyWestside
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re: The Intellectual Rankings of the SEC schools
Where does Freie Universität Berlin rank?


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bamameister
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re: The Intellectual Rankings of the SEC schools
Based on threads and comments on this forum alone, way too close to call.


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thunderbird1100
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re: The Intellectual Rankings of the SEC schools
Not surprising you're a bit late to this one


ForeverGator
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Not surprising you're a bit late to this one


Some of us work a lot.


armtackledawg
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Some of us work a lot.


Fake News.


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OliverQueen81
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re: The Intellectual Rankings of the SEC schools
Didn't see other thread, so ty.


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TheSandman
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re: The Intellectual Rankings of the SEC schools
Wann erscheint die Rangliste der deutschen Universitäten?


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texag7
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re: The Intellectual Rankings of the SEC schools
Their ranking methodology is very flawed


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also as pumped as I am to see Auburn continuing to rise in these rankings, let's be honest, at least for undergrad studies, the difference between 1 and 200 is relatively small


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Graf_UKPharmSci
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re: The Intellectual Rankings of the SEC schools
Now do research R&D expenditures, starting salaries, and other more relevant measures of the value of institutional contributions and educational value.

That will reveal a few surprises.


armtackledawg
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re: The Intellectual Rankings of the SEC schools
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Their ranking methodology is very flawed


Correct, UGA should be ahead of Florida.


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ForeverGator
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re: The Intellectual Rankings of the SEC schools
How is this flawed? What else would you add?

GRADUATION AND RETENTION RATES - 22%
SOCIAL MOBILITY - 5%
GRADUATION RATE PERFORMANCE - 8%
UNDERGRADUATE ACADEMIC REPUTATION - 20%
FACULTY RESOURCES FOR 2019-2020 ACADEMIC YEAR - 20%
STUDENT SELECTIVITY FOR THE FALL 2019 ENTERING CLASS - 7%
FINANCIAL RESOURCES PER STUDENT - 10%
AVERAGE ALUMNI GIVING RATE - 3%
GRADUATE INDEBTEDNESS - 5%


TheSandman
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GRADUATION RATE PERFORMANCE - 8%
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UNDERGRADUATE ACADEMIC REPUTATION - 20%
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FACULTY RESOURCES FOR 2019-2020 ACADEMIC YEAR - 20%

Do they list these statistics? I'd be super interested to check them out


ForeverGator
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Now do research R&D expenditures, starting salaries, and other more relevant measures of the value of institutional contributions and educational value.

That will reveal a few surprises.


Not sure how you would apply this universally. I find it funny you bring this up since Texas A&M does spend a fair amount of money on, you guessed it, agriculture. With that and oil & gas being hot, no shite it's going to look better, but reality is that only applies to very little of your graduates.


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re: The Intellectual Rankings of the SEC schools
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Do they list these statistics? I'd be super interested to check them out


I don't see them listed, but here's the entire methodology spelled out:

LINK


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texag7
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How is this flawed?


For starters, 20% of it is what the faculty of peer universities think of your school


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paperwasp
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re: The Intellectual Rankings of the SEC schools
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Now do research R&D expenditures

This was discussed in the previous thread.

If I recall, Texas A&M is one of the few large public universities that has all of this concentrated on one campus, whereas for example, Alabama has its medical school and primary research facility located in Birmingham (UAB).

Not taking anything away from A&M, but just pointing out that these rankings compare physical campuses, not systems as a whole.


ForeverGator
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If I recall, Texas A&M is one of the few large public universities that has all of this concentrated on one campus, whereas for example, Alabama has its medical school and primary research facility located in Birmingham (UAB).


Really not sure how you can use this at the undergrad level anyway? That's more graduate/PH.d type of stats.


paperwasp
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Really not sure how you can use this at the undergrad level anyway? That's more graduate/PH.d type of stats.

Yeah, I'm not trying to pump up any particular school or program, just saying that these comparisons are hard when each campus in an overall system has a different function.

And as we said before, the metrics used for these rankings are usually dubious anyway, as each applies different weights to various non-academic factors.


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