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re: The Cam Newton vs Joe Burrow debate
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:52 pm to WilliamTaylor21
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:52 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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Those weapons would mean nothing because Cam wasn’t a good quarterback. He was big and fast.
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He didn’t have a good arm and he didn’t have the ability to read, react, and carve up a defense.
quote:You’re really trolling here. You can’t be this stupid.
He had the ability to run. That does nothing for Clyde and those WR’s. And that’s why no one around Cam put up good numbers… End of discussion.
ETA: Cam literally beat Alabama and South Carolina, back to back, with his arm. Nobody put up huge numbers around him because the offense was centered around the run and there weren’t any weapons out wide. Plus, their run, way more often than not, couldn’t be stopped.
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 5:55 pm
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Posted on 8/9/22 at 6:02 pm to Scoper
quote:Randall. Who the hell spells it Randell?
@ Kentucky (Randell Cobb team)
That Auburn team beat us on a Wes Bynum FG. We had them deep in their territory and Cam broke from a tackle. If we had made that stop, we probably would have won. But you have to credit Cam for making the play and setting them up on that drive for a FG.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 6:06 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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BS. Why would Cam do worse with LSU? His run threat alone would have teams having to stack the box and then having elite receivers in 1-on-1 matchups.
Because he wasn’t an accurate passer and the offense we had wasn’t designed for a running qb
Posted on 8/9/22 at 6:15 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Cam was more than accurate enough. LSU posters who are trying to revisionist history Cam into Chris Relf are hilarious.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 6:55 pm to UKWildcats
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That Auburn team beat us on a Wes Bynum FG. We had them deep in their territory and Cam broke from a tackle. If we had made that stop, we probably would have won. But you have to credit Cam for making the play and setting them up on that drive for a FG.
One of the more insane throws you will ever see is the throw Cam made while being dragged out of bounds after rolling to his right and heaved a deep ball using nothing but arm strength to Kodi Burns 40 yards down field.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 6:58 pm to Scoper
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We always see people debate what Cam would've done on the 2019 LSU team
There is literally no one comparing the two.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 6:58 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Because he wasn’t an accurate passer and the offense we had wasn’t designed for a running qb
Check his accuracy stats.
Cam had a cannon, and if he was tossing lobs to Chase and Jefferson with 9 in the box, he would have been regarded as a prolific passer.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 7:00 pm to TTsTowel
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Cam Newton’s supporting cast and coaching was far below what Joe Burrow had to work with.
I actually might argue the coaching part.
Something that helped Cam was the newness and ingenuity of Malzahn. People hadn’t figured out his offense yet, and the zone reads gave Cam the perfect set up for using his legs.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 7:05 pm to StringedInstruments
Folks also don’t give Burrow enough credit for his incredible pocket awareness in 2019, acting like he was just dropping back with no pressure and letting the WRs and Helaire do all the work.
The margin between Burrow and Cam is razor thin
The margin between Burrow and Cam is razor thin
Posted on 8/9/22 at 7:52 pm to Scoper
Joe Burrow was nothing without Joe Brady.
Cam/Tebow
Burrow
Cam/Tebow
Burrow
Posted on 8/9/22 at 7:56 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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Joe Burrow was nothing without Joe Brady.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 8:05 pm to Sun God
The best way to determine this debate is to have them switch teams.
Cam still goes undefeated with the 2019 LSU offense.
2010 Auburn loses 3-4 games with Joe at QB.
/thread
ETA: They both won championships so this debate as a whole is fricking stupid.
Cam still goes undefeated with the 2019 LSU offense.
2010 Auburn loses 3-4 games with Joe at QB.
/thread
ETA: They both won championships so this debate as a whole is fricking stupid.
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 8/9/22 at 8:16 pm to Scoper
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We always see people debate what Cam would've done on the 2019 LSU team
No we don't, because you just made it up.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 8:29 pm to TideSaint
A lots being made of Cam’s supporting cast not being Burrow’s but with no mention of Burrow possibly elevating his supporting cast. Weren’t Clyde and Justin Jefferson 3 stars or under? Randy’s moss’s son wasn’t much, and I read a story about Chase being a Kansas commit before LSU came along (not sure what that says about his star rating but can’t imagine a 5 star at Kansas?)
Who were Burrow’s big star-studded weapons?
Cam had a 5 star RB (Dyer?) that won the natty for him and that TE (RIP). Don’t know about his WRs but probably 3 stars at least?
Idk, the answer is JMFF either way
Who were Burrow’s big star-studded weapons?
Cam had a 5 star RB (Dyer?) that won the natty for him and that TE (RIP). Don’t know about his WRs but probably 3 stars at least?
Idk, the answer is JMFF either way
Posted on 8/9/22 at 8:32 pm to TideSaint
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2010 Auburn loses 3-4 games with Joe at QB.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 8:34 pm to Sun God
2019 LSU won three single digit games with all that talent.
2010 Auburn absolutely loses 3-4 games with Burrow at the helm.
2010 Auburn absolutely loses 3-4 games with Burrow at the helm.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 8:36 pm to TideSaint
Am I allowed to mention our defensive injuries or can only y’all do that?
It’s just as fair of a hypothetical
Love you using “absolutely” there
It’s just as fair of a hypothetical
Love you using “absolutely” there
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 8/9/22 at 8:39 pm to TideSaint
To be honest, Cam Newton did what Vince Young did: dared teams to try and stop him running and then bombed them over the top when they did.
Burrow was more impressive. And not a complete piece of shite like Newton.
Burrow was more impressive. And not a complete piece of shite like Newton.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 8:40 pm to Sun God
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Am I allowed to mention our defensive injuries or can only y’all do that?
It’s just as fair of a hypothetical
Mention anything you want. It won't change the overall 2019 LSU roster or the 2010 Auburn one.
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Love you using “absolutely” there
Didn't LSU lose 3 games with Burrow at the helm the year before?
Hell, Alabama beat them 29-0 in Baton Rouge in 2018.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 8:42 pm to Rhino5
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Cam didn’t have weapons or play calling of Joe brady
He honestly would not have been very successful with Brady’s calls. Just like Burrow would not be very successful running the read option.
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