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re: Sugar Bowl will be site for SEC/Big XII "Champions Bowl"
Posted on 11/6/12 at 5:15 pm to Smoke Ring
Posted on 11/6/12 at 5:15 pm to Smoke Ring
For the Aggies, are y'all still going to play Texas every year? I would really like to see y'all beat their arse every year.
Also, with respect to the 80 Million and all other bowl money. In the SEC all of the money goes into one pot and get split evenly among all team, unlike the Big Twelve where TExas keeps the money.
Texas is africking joke.
Also, with respect to the 80 Million and all other bowl money. In the SEC all of the money goes into one pot and get split evenly among all team, unlike the Big Twelve where TExas keeps the money.
Texas is africking joke.
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Posted on 11/6/12 at 5:15 pm to Smoke Ring
So...is the matchup a replacement or an addition to the Sugar Bowl?
Posted on 11/6/12 at 5:24 pm to BamaScoop
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For the Aggies, are y'all still going to play Texas every year? I would really like to see y'all beat their arse every year.
I think we all would but they have hurt feelings over us leaving and so are "freezing us out of the state" to "limit our exposure". While this sounds like a joke, it's actually what they think they are doing. They were telling recruits we wouldn't be playing in Texas any more and no one would get to see us play. Meanwhile we're on CBS this week and they aren't even on tv.
Posted on 11/6/12 at 5:25 pm to Mullen3:16
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So...is the matchup a replacement or an addition to the Sugar Bowl?
All the bowl games are being redone in the post-BCS era. So this is the Sugar Bowl. It's just no longer SEC vs at-large. It's now SEC-Big 12 like the Rose is Pac-B1G
Posted on 11/6/12 at 5:26 pm to Smoke Ring
This post was edited on 2/16/13 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 11/6/12 at 5:27 pm to Smoke Ring
Sugar Bowl and Rose Bowl will be the permanent semi-final for the future 8 team playoff.
Posted on 11/6/12 at 5:32 pm to Smoke Ring
So, how does this work with the playoff?
Are the two semifinal games separate from this?
So, we get to watch the 3rd place team from the SEC blow out the Big XII champion every year in the Sugar Bowl? Is that how it will work? Sounds good. It is much better than the 2nd place SEC team playing Cincinnati or something like that.
Are the two semifinal games separate from this?
So, we get to watch the 3rd place team from the SEC blow out the Big XII champion every year in the Sugar Bowl? Is that how it will work? Sounds good. It is much better than the 2nd place SEC team playing Cincinnati or something like that.
Posted on 11/6/12 at 5:39 pm to AlaTiger
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So, how does this work with the playoff?
Are the two semifinal games separate from this?
6 sites will be chosen as rotating semifinals. The Rose/Sugar will be paired the same year every 3 years.
In years when it is the semifinals, this game is off. In years when it is not, the SEC and Big 12 will pick the top team not involved in the playoff to play. It's not ever going to be an elite game because of it, but it will generate $80m in tv revenue plus what New Orleans bid to host it.
I was told that it was agreed that the Big 12 will not get an equal share if they do not have a conf championship game which is why they will probably expand.
Posted on 11/6/12 at 5:48 pm to sunnydaze
pretty funny! I've never seen that sentiment on this board before.
Posted on 11/6/12 at 11:10 pm to oklahogjr
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okie state and Texas Tech aren't exactly the best fans. Don't feel bad at least they probably sold their allotment. aTm couldn't even do that against us and it ended up being kinda lame everywhere except the arkansas side.
Arky side was nowhere close to being sold out either.
pretty much nobody likes going out to that place once the initial novelty of its opulence wears off.
This post was edited on 11/6/12 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 11/6/12 at 11:47 pm to Smoke Ring
Wait, so the Sugar Bowl game will become the "Champions Bowl" but keep the name, or will both just be played in NOLA?
Posted on 11/6/12 at 11:50 pm to DaleDenton
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How are teams decided to play in this game?
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Winners from the two previous round robins. These are league games Smokie.
I'm not quite sure what that means. I thought this was a post season bowl matching up. Do you have a concise explanation of how it works or a good link?
TIA
Posted on 11/6/12 at 11:54 pm to Smoke Ring
So on the payout does that mean
SEC - 40 Million (2.857 Million per team)
Big XII - 40 Million (4 Million per team)
or 80 split by 24 teams or 3.333 Million per team?
SEC - 40 Million (2.857 Million per team)
Big XII - 40 Million (4 Million per team)
or 80 split by 24 teams or 3.333 Million per team?
Posted on 11/7/12 at 2:19 am to Stripes314
In my view giving the little 12 a bone like this is a mistake... they are the new wac and should be treated that way.
The SEC should not legitimize a conference filled with our old foes.
The SEC should not legitimize a conference filled with our old foes.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 2:28 am to TrueTexan
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In my view giving the little 12 a bone like this is a mistake... they are the new wac and should be treated that way.
The SEC should not legitimize a conference filled with our old foes.
Why? It is worth $80mil/yr... the same as the Rose Bowl. No other conference tie-in would have brought that kind of money and power to the table. Slive is a sly bastard. Don't sell him short into thinking that he's done anything to "help out" your previous conference. He's helping the SEC. And here is why...
We shook hands with the Big12 and then went directly behind their back and claimed a piece of the tie-in for the Orange Bowl vs the ACC champ, which will be worth $55mil/yr. The agreement states that it takes the ACC champ vs the highest ranked team available between Notre Dame, the SEC, and the B1G. Of course, the Pac12 and Big12 are pissed about this, because it all-but-guarantees that we will make more money than them most bowl seasons.
Now for my personal speculation about how this ends up. The other 3 rumored "tie-in" games will almost assuredly be what was previously known as the Fiesta, Cotton, and Peach Bowls, in which the SEC has 2 pre-existing tie-ins, the Big12 had 2, and the ACC had 1. Thus, it is in the process of being setup so that the SEC will almost always have at least one more team in the tier 1 bowls compared to every other conference, maybe 2 or 3 some years, and will thus keep a much larger piece of the pie annually...
What you've got:
Rotating among other 6, so 2 sites/yr will lose their "tie ins"
Playoff #1 vs #4
Playoff #2 vs #3
In off years(not in playoffs)
Rose Bowl(Pac12 vs B1G)
Sugar Bowl(SEC vs Big12)
Orange Bowl(SEC/B1G/ND vs ACC)
Fiesta Bowl(Big12 vs Pac12*pac being likely included, not necessarily historically*)
Cotton Bowl(SEC vs Big12)
Peach Bowl(SEC vs ACC)
Total (non playoff) tie-ins:
SEC 4
Big12 3
ACC 2
B1G 2
Pac12 2
That's how Slive makes it happen...
This post was edited on 11/7/12 at 2:56 am
Posted on 11/7/12 at 4:35 am to Smoke Ring
Here is a longer article.
Along with a sponsors name..."Allstate Sugar Bowl, etc."
It's about money but I can see some very poor matchups in the future...but with playoffs coming up it's inevitable.
The chances of a 7th site has decreased according to article. Also, according to above math, this is strictly semi-finals. Not sure if the CG will be open to bidding just from these 6 or various sites across the nation.
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The game will take the name of the Sugar Bowl as the "Champions Bowl" name was just a temporary placeholder.
Along with a sponsors name..."Allstate Sugar Bowl, etc."
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new Sugar Bowl between the champions of the SEC and Big 12 will be Jan. 1, 2015. If the SEC or Big 12 champion advances to the national semifinals, each conference would then provide another team for the Sugar Bowl.
It's about money but I can see some very poor matchups in the future...but with playoffs coming up it's inevitable.
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The Sugar Bowl also will be part of the semifinal rotation during college football's 12-year four-team playoff deal, starting after the 2014 regular season. Other bowls announced in the semifinal rotation are the Rose (Pasadena, Calif.) and Orange (Miami). Sources said the other three bowls in the semifinal rotation are expected to be the Fiesta (Glendale, Ariz.), Chick-fil-A (Atlanta) and Cotton (Arlington, Texas). Each of the six bowls is expected to host four semifinals during the 12-year period.
The chances of a 7th site has decreased according to article. Also, according to above math, this is strictly semi-finals. Not sure if the CG will be open to bidding just from these 6 or various sites across the nation.
This post was edited on 11/7/12 at 4:40 am
Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:14 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
This is great news. New Orleans is so much better than Dallas to visit, and the Sugar Bowl/Super Dome is fantastically located within walking distance of fun stuff. Plus the SEC has a great history in New Orleans.
This move solidifies the Sugar Bowl as one of the two best bowl games. I was worried Jerry's deep pockets might steal this away. I'm pretty sure that Jerry will get the Cotton Bowl in the semi-final rotation, so that will be a nice "get" for the Cotton which used to be one of the major bowls before the Fiesta took its place.
Just a huge win all around (for the SEC, for N.O., for the Sugar Bowl, and IMO for fans of both the SEC and Big 12 teams).
This move solidifies the Sugar Bowl as one of the two best bowl games. I was worried Jerry's deep pockets might steal this away. I'm pretty sure that Jerry will get the Cotton Bowl in the semi-final rotation, so that will be a nice "get" for the Cotton which used to be one of the major bowls before the Fiesta took its place.
Just a huge win all around (for the SEC, for N.O., for the Sugar Bowl, and IMO for fans of both the SEC and Big 12 teams).
Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:28 am to engie
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Now for my personal speculation about how this ends up. The other 3 rumored "tie-in" games will almost assuredly be what was previously known as the Fiesta, Cotton, and Peach Bowls, in which the SEC has 2 pre-existing tie-ins, the Big12 had 2, and the ACC had 1. Thus, it is in the process of being setup so that the SEC will almost always have at least one more team in the tier 1 bowls compared to every other conference, maybe 2 or 3 some years, and will thus keep a much larger piece of the pie annually...
I think you are right about those three being the last three semi-finals sites. So at the end of the day, the winners (compared to the BCS system) will be the Cotton and the Peach. The biggest loser will be the Capitol One Bowl which was the biggest non-BCS bowl but looks to be the odd bowl out of the new arrangement.
Final note: I think they should require the Chick-fil-A bowl to take its historic name of the Peach Bowl to be part of the new coalition...f*ck corporate branding on the bowls.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:03 am to GumBro Jackson
agree, should have never been changed... just do what they all do
the Peach Bowl by Chick Fil A
the Peach Bowl by Chick Fil A
Posted on 11/7/12 at 10:12 am to GumBro Jackson
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The biggest loser will be the Capitol One Bowl which was the biggest non-BCS bowl but looks to be the odd bowl out of the new arrangement.
That's what Orlando gets for never doing anything about that crappy stadium.
Atlanta/Peach is a much better choice.
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