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re: Strange SEC losses

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Posted by gamecocks22
SC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:45 pm to
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1984: Undefeated USC (9-0) goes up to Annapolis, MD to play a 3-5-1 Navy team and loses by 2+ TDs.


Posted by noladan
new orleans
Member since Nov 2003
3806 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:48 pm to
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Yeah we were 1 game away from winning the SEC twice under billy brewer, and both times lost to Tennessee. 1986 and 1990.

I just googled the 86 LSU-Ole Miss game, and I guess my memory of frustration comes not from Ole Miss having a bad team but from LSU missing a 30 yard FG as time expired(that would have won the game).
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26135 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:49 pm to
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Co-Champion


So is Alabama the Champion and UGA is the Co-Champion?

LINK

And

Co-Chief
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 1:52 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
90469 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:51 pm to
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So is Alabama the Champion and UGA is the Co-Champion?


Do you know what co-champion means?
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26135 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:52 pm to
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Do you know what co-champion means?


You never watched Scrubs and just assumed it was a flame. Check out the videos.
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 1:54 pm
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:53 pm to
A more frustrating loss to Ole Miss would be 1997. LSU had upset #1 Florida the previous week and then gets drilled 36-21 by a mediocre OM team in tiger stadium. LSU finished 9-3 that year.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26135 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:55 pm to
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A more frustrating loss to Ole Miss would be 1997. LSU had upset #1 Florida the previous week and then gets drilled 36-21 by a mediocre OM team in tiger stadium. LSU finished 9-3 that year.


Rufus French's one shining moment.
This post was edited on 5/1/13 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
12163 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:55 pm to
1982 - Orange Bowl bound LSU loses last game of regular season to Tulane, who had only one other win that year.
Posted by noladan
new orleans
Member since Nov 2003
3806 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:59 pm to
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A more frustrating loss to Ole Miss would be 1997. LSU had upset #1 Florida the previous week and then gets drilled 36-21 by a mediocre OM team in tiger stadium. LSU finished 9-3 that year.

That was painful as hell to watch. The dreaded Jefferson Pilot game of the week coming a week after the biggest LSU win in years. That one did hurt, no doubt.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
90469 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 1:59 pm to
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You never watched Scrubs and just assumed it was a flame. Check out the videos


dammit, you're right

When you linked a video, I just assumed it was some old grainy footage from a 1981 broadcast that mentioned alabama being the 81 SEC champs. I guess I was way off.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
53893 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 2:01 pm to
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Tennessee -Memphis


Not a UT Fan, but I think Memphis just cared more, TN went in thinking they could play at a lower level and still win.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26135 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 2:02 pm to
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dammit, you're right

When you linked a video, I just assumed it was some old grainy footage from a 1981 broadcast that mentioned alabama being the 81 SEC champs. I guess I was way off.



I thought it would be a funny callback for anyone who had seen it. I got a good laugh about how bitter he was about being the Co-Chief.
Posted by HinesvilleThrill
Skidaway Island
Member since Sep 2012
3475 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 2:06 pm to
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A tie =/= a loss.


What about that loss though?
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
44215 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 2:15 pm to
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Tennessee
in 1996 UT goes 10-2, has Peyton Manning at QB, but loses to a 4-7 Memphis team



Vols and Refs robbed the Gamecocks the week before that Memphis State game in '96. Vols knew it - nine pass interference calls on SCAR, two unsportsmanlike conduct calls tacked-on when first Terry Cousin complained, then the SCAR benched complained ... Leonard Little was injured in the game and missed the next week against Memphis State. Manning was limping and gimpy by game's end.

Karma Kickback against the Vols the next week when they did not have the SEC refs propping them up.

I'll say one thing, there was a ton of future NFL talent on both sides of the ball in that game at SC. I think more than thirty of those guys from those two teams played for awhile in the NFL. From SC alone I think, Terry Cousin, John Abraham, Anthony Wright, Marcus Robinson, Duce Staley, Jamar Nesbit, Randy Wheeler, Darrin Hambrick, Troy Hambrick, Ray Greene ... and UT was absolutely loaded as well.

Jay Graham later said, when he was coaching at SC, that the '96 game was one of the hardest hitting games he ever played in.

But anyways, UT went into the Memphis State game gimpy and maybe a little bit unsure about themselves - and Memphis State caught a ton of lucky breaks in the game too, especially on the game winning TD pass and I seem to remember a KO returned for a TD that was questionable as well. I think Manning may have ever had a interception returned for a long TD that night as well.

Three things I believe can be attributed to that loss in Memphis for the Vols.

1 - the physical game the week before in Columbia left the Vols gimpy.
2 - the Vols simply overlooked Memphis State and came in flat.
3 - too much was made the week heading into that game about how the Vols were 40-1 against teams in November for the previous ten years. I even remember John Ward, used to be the Voice of the Vols for the youngsters, referring to Tennessee's December schedule as "Winkin', Blinkin' and Nod."

It all set-up for an upset and it kept the SEC from receiving two BCS bowl invites that season.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
26135 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 2:19 pm to
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Troy Hambrick


Heir to Emmitt Smith. World's greatest back at running out of bounds to avoid contact despite being 6'1" 233. Also went on to backup Emmitt in Arizona.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
44215 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 2:21 pm to
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1984: Undefeated USC (9-0) goes up to Annapolis, MD to play a 3-5-1 Navy team and loses by 2+ TDs.


Very similar to what happened to UT in '96.

We beat FSU the week before in Columbia in a brutal game. Lost a lot of key players and went into the Navy game gimpy.

On the road, at Navy, (in a high school sized stadium in front of a high school sized crowd) as the #2 team in the country and we overlooked them and their option attack - we went in flat.

We let all the National Championship talk go to our heads all week, the supposed invite to the Orange bowl already on the table ... Beano Cook raising hell all week.

It was just a major cluster frick before all was said and done.

Wasn't Napoleon McCallum the surprise RB for Navy that kicked our arse that day?

Posted by Scoreboard
Madison, AL
Member since Apr 2012
2011 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 2:34 pm to
The game ended and they had more points than we did.

You don't seem to realize the depth of the truth you're telling. Sure UT played lousy and Memphis wound up with more points. But Memphis got the winning points on one of the worst calls in history. The Memphis kickoff returner went to ground, propping his body off the ground on his elbow and forearm - the one holding the ball, by the way. Everyone relaxed, assuming the whistle. But there's no whistle, the guy jumped up and went 95 yards. The elbow is down, just like the knee, but these idiot refs didn't know that.
Posted by HinesvilleThrill
Skidaway Island
Member since Sep 2012
3475 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 2:37 pm to
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great minds..

Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19595 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:05 pm to
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scrooster


quote:

It all set-up for an upset and it kept the SEC from receiving two BCS bowl invites that season.


No BCS in '96, can't remember what frontrunner it was but I'm pretty sure it was the Bowl Alliance. BCS didn't start until '98 when UT was the first winner.
Posted by McRebel42
North Mississippi Hollywood
Member since Oct 2012
11606 posts
Posted on 5/1/13 at 3:07 pm to
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Ole Miss

In 2003 we lost to Memphis with senior QB Eli Manning and we would later go on to go 10-3. That same Memphis team gave State one of their only 3 wins on the year.

Also lost to Texas Tech that year. Their QB (BJ Simmons?) threw for over 600 yards and Eli threw for over 400. One of the craziest offensive games I've ever seen.


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