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Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:40 am
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:40 am
In the first 2 games Jarrett Stidham took a combined 15 sacks but since the Clemson game he has only given up 10 sacks in the remaining 7 games which is a little under 2 sacks per game.
Against LSU he took 3 but was forced into 3rd and long scenarios all game because he handed the ball off on 17 consecutive 1st downs.
My question is why is there still an on going narrative that Stidham can't handle pressure?
Bentley-25 sacks
Stidham-25 sacks
Hurts-19 sacks
Etling-22 sacks
Johnson-23 sacks
One could say that Hurts is the one who cant handle pressure the most as he runs more, doesn't stand in the pocket and has a lower completion %. Why so much hate on Stidham who has proven that he is amongst the best in the country against the blitz as of late?
Against LSU he took 3 but was forced into 3rd and long scenarios all game because he handed the ball off on 17 consecutive 1st downs.
My question is why is there still an on going narrative that Stidham can't handle pressure?
Bentley-25 sacks
Stidham-25 sacks
Hurts-19 sacks
Etling-22 sacks
Johnson-23 sacks
One could say that Hurts is the one who cant handle pressure the most as he runs more, doesn't stand in the pocket and has a lower completion %. Why so much hate on Stidham who has proven that he is amongst the best in the country against the blitz as of late?
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:42 am to TheGusBus34
Bama is not the best at pass protection either. I wonder what the over/under for sacks this week will be? Auburn is known for their dline and Saban always cooks up creative blitzes for the Iron Bowl.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 11:13 am
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:42 am to TheGusBus34
Because anyone with eyes has watched Stidham when the pocket starts to collapse and sees him lose his mind and either fall down or fling the ball out of bounds.
Maybe that's Stidham, maybe that's the route tree concepts, but it's silly to act like it doesn't exist.
And Jalen isn't great in the face of pressure either, but he has proven he can escape it and make plays with his feet at times while Stidham has not. That's the biggest difference (and is a pretty big difference).
Maybe that's Stidham, maybe that's the route tree concepts, but it's silly to act like it doesn't exist.
And Jalen isn't great in the face of pressure either, but he has proven he can escape it and make plays with his feet at times while Stidham has not. That's the biggest difference (and is a pretty big difference).
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 10:45 am
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:43 am to TheGusBus34
Stidham is basically a mixture of Cam and Nick Marshall but he is white.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:46 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Because anyone with eyes has watched Stidham when the pocket starts to collapse and sees him lose his mind and either fall down or fling the ball out of bounds.
Maybe that's Stidham, maybe that's the route tree concepts, but it's silly to act like it doesn't exist.
Stidham's problem has been to hold the ball too long. Hurts' problem has been to take off running too soon. They have the opposite problems but both have gotten better over the year. Stidham has 4.6 speed and can run, and needs to if everybody is covered. Hurts needs to run out of the pocket and keep his eyes downfield before he decides to take off.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 11:14 am
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:47 am to TheGusBus34
quote:Because he panics too soon and doesn't hang in the pocket or keep his head down field when he scrambles.
My question is why is there still an on going narrative that Stidham can't handle pressure?
Some of that is probably because he rarely had check down alternatives.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:55 am to SummerOfGeorge
He has improved over the season. He is at least getting to the line of scrimmage on his runs, he threw a few away against UGA. I just think he is overall better than he was game 2 and the stats show it. I just don't get how you have the best passing % in the SEC against the blitz and without the blitz and still get coined the term "easily rattled" 
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:56 am to SummerOfGeorge
Hey SOG do you have the numbers for QBs and how they do against the blitz available?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:58 am to TheGusBus34
quote:Tremendously. Play calling has been better in recent weeks as well. Also, the offensive line, while still not great, is much better with the current personnel.
He has improved over the season.
quote:Because we have been checking into screen passes against the blitz when we see or suspect it coming. And it worked beautifully against UGA.
I just don't get how you have the best passing % in the SEC against the blitz and without the blitz and still get coined the term "easily rattled"
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 10:59 am
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:58 am to TheGusBus34
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just don't get how you have the best passing % in the SEC against the blitz and without the blitz and still get coined the term "easily rattled"
Oh that? That is just from people who only saw Auburn play Clemson. I wouldn't pay any attention to that.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:58 am to Gump4heisman
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Stidham is basically a mixture of Cam and Nick Marshall but he is white.
To be honest, he is neither but you are right, he is white.
He is a better version of Sean White or Chris Todd. He has nothing like Nick Marshall. He is nothing like Cam Newton
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:04 am to TheGusBus34
Damn you scared.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:06 am to elit4ce05
not at all...haven't felt this confident in an Iron Bowl in a while.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:12 am to TheGusBus34
Yeah I agree people tend to just say he can't handle pressure unfairly. I would certainly agree a few months ago. Taking a break for nearly two years will do that to a player, especially against Clemson's d-line. He is certainly progressing. I was actually very impressed with how he played against Texas AM and Georgia. Texas AM was leading the conference in sacks and I believe they got him twice. He made some great throws, threw out of bounds when he had to, and made a few scrambles.
In summary, he's not the best, but he is certainly getting better. He will be scary good come this time next year.
In summary, he's not the best, but he is certainly getting better. He will be scary good come this time next year.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:16 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Because anyone with eyes has watched Stidham when the pocket starts to collapse and sees him lose his mind and either fall down or fling the ball out of bounds.
That is how he acted early in the season. He had plenty of time to go thru his route tree, but was afraid to pull the trigger. What you didn't see early was a safety valve for him to dump the ball off. Gus adjusted his Offense with the back coming out of the backfield, that is why his sacks have declined. I would say Stidham's sack to completion ratio is on of the best in the SEC, especially the last 6 games.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:22 am to TheGusBus34
my only observation is that he is still a little quick to leave the pocket sometimes and many times when he does so he runs himself into pressure. he has settled down a lot as the season progressed and his coaches got their heads out of their asses. there were times when Gus & co were calling series' where Cam couldnt have been successful(Clemson). I'd say he has done a tremendous job, all things considered.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:33 am to SummerOfGeorge
People have lost their minds Jalen Hurts is playing better than any other QB in the sec not named Lock and I'd still take him over Lock because of his wheels. Jalen is the only reason Bama has a shot against auburn; without him and the throws he made against state and LSU, Bama is looking at two losses and a third in th iron bowl.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:38 am to viceman
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Stidham's problem has been to hold the ball too long. Hurts' problem has been to take off running too soon.
Hurts also holds the ball on what little deep routes we call. He waits until Calvin is wide open before he makes the throw and if he doesn't get wide open he takes off or throws it away. He doesn't throw picks but I wish he would trust Ridley to beat his man and throw the ball.
Stidham is an elite quarterback when he has a clean pocket but he absolutely falls apart when pressured. If we had last years pass rush Stidham would live in terror all game but I am not sure how much pressure we can get this year.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 11:41 am to labamafan
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Jalen is the only reason Bama has a shot against auburn; without him and the throws he made against state and LSU, Bama is looking at two losses and a third in th iron bowl.
I wouldnt say the only reason but he is my biggest concern. IDGAF what anyone says dude is a game changer.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 12:00 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Because anyone with eyes has watched Stidham when the pocket starts to collapse and sees him lose his mind and either fall down or fling the ball out of bounds.
yup
once the pocket collapses he looks like
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