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Posted on 7/14/20 at 9:38 am
Posted by Literalist
Minnesota
Member since Oct 2014
3474 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 9:38 am
In talking to many friends, I'm surprised at the apathy of guys who are sports fans. Most seems to feel "oh well" about the prospect of no games.

I'm wondering if we're to the point of a complete overhaul of sports from the high school level to professional teams.

Are we headed to a significant downward spiral in the "importance" of sports?

Is this just just an "outlier"...or are we in the first stages of a bubble burst?
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21228 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Is this just just an "outlier"


Yes.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
8427 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 9:45 am to
I fall into this category for all sports sans College Football.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 9:49 am to
No I don't think it's an outlier, all the off the field stuff has genuinely cooled my commitment to sports in general
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44699 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 9:51 am to
quote:

Is this just just an "outlier"...or are we in the first stages of a bubble burst?


I hope the bubble bursts.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14021 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:01 am to
quote:

I fall into this category for all sports sans College Football.


If you change that to "college sports" I would agree 100%. I think I'm leaning towards not playing fantasy football at all this year. I have played in 4 fantasy football leagues for the last 4 or 5 years. I don't plan on watching a single NFL game this year.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:02 am to
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No I don't think it's an outlier, all the off the field stuff has genuinely cooled my commitment to sports in general

Why?

Tebow kneeled and interjected his Religion into college sports, AND YOU DIDN'T SAY A DAMNED THING

Here's my challenge to you, if you were silent and enjoyed Tebow between the lines, then treat these CFB Players in 2020 the same way YOU treated Tebow

Hypocrite much?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93643 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:05 am to
We definitely agree here. I've never understood why an athlete's personal life or stances should have any impact on why someone will or won't watch them play a game. I feel the same way about actors. The obvious exception is if the person has committed a serious crime.
Posted by themicah85
DALLAS TX
Member since Jul 2015
3501 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:08 am to
Im not sure if its because I've gotten older and other things have just become more important, my teams havent been all that great, the political stuff the sports networks shove down everyones throats or maybe a mixture of all of the above, but ive slipped farther and farther away from being the sports fan i was from when i was a kid up until i was in my late 20's. I will still watch college football if its on but i dont make plans for it like i did. I only keep up with the NFL for my fantasy teams purposes and i cant remember the last time i watched an NBA game. I do still like going to Baseball games but i hardly watch them on tv anymore either. This website is the most sports dedicated thing i participate in.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66999 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:13 am to
Tebow kneeled in the endzone after scoring touchdowns to praise Jesus. Kneeling after a td is a pretty common gesture both before and after Tebow. The media just hyper focused on Tebow because his whole image was about his faith. He claimed to be against pre-marital sex and practiced and preached abstinence and put bible verses in his eyeblack, which I thought was a little weird, but didn’t bother me too much.

He didn’t kneel during the national anthem because we live in a racist country whose police, flag, monuments, and constitution should all be destroyed. He didn’t claim that he was being blackballed from a racist league when no one wanted to pay him starter money after averaging less than 180 yards passing per game.

One’s gesture was a genuine display of humility while the other was a blatantly political statement and a middle finger to logic, truth, and western civilization which in essence served as an accusation that the very people who payed lots and lots of money to watch him play a game for a living were evil monsters who need to atone for their sins against him.

They are NOT the same!

And yeah, being told, as the customer, that I am the problem, that I have somehow victimizers the insanely athletically gifted multi-millionaire, makes me really not want to keep being a customer. I like to patronize places that actually want my business.

As far as Covid, though, the government has already taken away nearly everything good about life in the name of this virus with zero input or recourse from the public. I can’t keep fretting over things I have no control over. If they want to accuse all NFL fans of being klansman, or don’t play a season, f$&k ‘em. They can do what they want and I’m just going to ignore them. They don’t want me watching them or buying their product, then I won’t, it’s that simple.
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 10:20 am
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44699 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:30 am to
quote:

Tebow kneeled and interjected his Religion into college sports, AND YOU DIDN'T SAY A DAMNED THING


Tebow wasn't trying to draw attention to himself, and he wasn't grabbing every microphone he could get his hands on telling the world how awful people were who didn't follow his religious beliefs. Tebow was 100% genuine. None of the current race baiters can say that.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:40 am to
quote:

Tebow wasn't trying to draw attention to himself, and he wasn't grabbing every microphone he could get his hands on telling the world how awful people were who didn't follow his religious beliefs. Tebow was 100% genuine. None of the current race baiters can say that.

How is asking that a Statue or Memorial be taken down rise to the level of race baiting, when the person depicted in the Statue was a treasonous traitorous cowardly loser racist arse dead confederate?

Asking that a professional police officer bring an unarmed person in alive to get their due process is NOT race baiting

It seems to me that any minority that has an opinion that you don't like gets accused of race baiting
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:45 am to
quote:

Tebow wasn't trying to draw attention to himself, and he wasn't grabbing every microphone he could get his hands on telling the world how awful people were who didn't follow his religious beliefs. Tebow was 100% genuine. None of the current race baiters can say that.

bullshite!

Tebow had the option of simply handing the ball to the Official and going to the sideline after a TD

Yes Tebow was drawing attention to himself, problem is, you see everything done by a white Athlete as innocent and legit and almost everything done by a Black Athlete as something less, something different
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93643 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:48 am to
I really just thought Tebow was being himself and he really wasn't too preachy in press conferences. But, if he is allowed to do that on the field, pray on the sidelines during the game and put bible verses on his eyeblack then other players should be able to have the same freedoms for their causes as well.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:50 am to
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Most seems to feel "oh well" about the prospect of no games.


A lot of fans will say this but once they get a taste of it, they will jump full in just like before

Some are also going to get the itch again when they are sitting at home on Saturdays flipping through channels
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44699 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Asking that a professional police officer bring an unarmed person in alive to get their due process is NOT race baiting


George Floyd was killed by a police officer with a personal vendetta dating back to the days when they worked together. He was not killed because he was black.

As for the Wendy's guy in Atlanta, he grabbed the officer's taser. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

We will never be able to know this, but I would ban bet you that Chuba Hubbard had no idea what was on Mike Gundy's shirt until someone told him he should be offended by it.

The Texas WR who said he would quit until "changes" were made is laughable.

If Tom Herman, Dabo Swinney, and Kirk Ferentz were actually saying all of these offensive things, we would have heard about it long before now. The Iowa RB who whined about Ferentz only did so because his NFL career never got off the ground and now he's hoping to be part of some kind of money grab.

A lot of these guys are getting the opportunity for a free education that they otherwise would never have access to in a lot of cases, and they're showing themselves to be ungrateful little shuts.

So yeah, they're race baiting and I would like to see a total overhaul of college sports.

As for Tebow, plenty of religious players, both white and black, kneel in the end zone after a touchdown. They don't get all preachy about it and tell you how much of a piece of shite you are if you don't agree with them in lockstep.
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 10:54 am
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 10:54 am to
Literally researching things to see how they can be construed as offensive and then to extract demands. That's the opposite of oppression
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66999 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:16 am to
quote:

How is asking that a Statue or Memorial be taken down rise to the level of race baiting, when the person depicted in the Statue was a treasonous traitorous cowardly loser racist arse dead confederate?


This is an absurd take that relies on a complete ignorance of American history. Prior to the Civil War, the individual states had far more power and autonomy than did the federal government. Citizen’s Identity was more to their state than their country, much like how most Europeans see themselves first as citizens of England, France, or Germany and citizens of the EU seperate.

When states seceded, citizens were called to defend their state against the federal government. It was loyalty to state over federal. To go the other way meant fighting your own family, neighbors, and home towns.

In addition, most confederate soldiers were drafted, and monuments were built to commemorate the 400k who died at the hands of the Union invasion. In addition, many of these confederates are honored as much for their contributions outside of the war. General Beauregard helped build New Orleans City Park and founded schools to educate freed slaves. Robert E. Lee became an advocate for peace to prevent the nation from descending into geurilla warfare. Many others founded universities, theaters, museums, and all sorts of historical and cultural institutions which survive to this day. Cancel Culture believes any impurity warrants destruction, however.

These monuments are being demanded torn down not to unify but to divide. The idea is to make acceptable the removal of anything built by anyone associated with slavery. It won’t stop with “racist traitorous confederates”.

The Declaration of Independence was penned by slaveholder Thomas Jefferson. The Constitution by slaveowner James Madison. The Revolutionary War was won by slaveowner George Washington. Once the confederate monuments are taken down, the founding fathers and the Constitution itself will be the next target. Don’t act like it’s not happening already. Statues of Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, and countless abolitionist leaders have been defaced or taken down by mobs over the past month. The mob is trying to destroy American history so they can rewrite it where they get to decide who has rights and what rights they have, and where the mob is and always was right.
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 11:20 am
Posted by Woodreaux
OC California
Member since Jan 2008
2790 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:29 am to
An overhaul is overdue. I saw boucoup fat people yesterday. We must DOUBLE-DOWN on athletics, physical training and sports starting at an early age. 5-10 extra hours a week, during school, might seem like an expensive investment, but the payoff will be awesome. We face serious issues right now, because we are neglecting the physical aspects of how we prepare children for life.

Posted by tgdawg68
Georgia
Member since Dec 2019
568 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:43 am to
quote:

Asking that a professional police officer bring an unarmed person in alive to get their due process is NOT race baiting


The fact is that the police do this the overwhelming majority of the time and to claim systemic racism when unarmed white people are more statistically likely to be shot in police encounters absolutely is race baiting.
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