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re: Sporting News Preseason Rankings: 1. Bama 3. Cocks 4. Gators 7. A&M...

Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:20 am to
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:20 am to
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Yet somehow just gets swept to the side.


I certainly have LSU #1 going in, how could I not?
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:21 am to
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bama and A&M lost more starters than LSU.....and we played more freshmen and sophomores than anyone in the country
Why don't you put this phrase as your sig? Then you won't have to type it out every time.
Posted by dallasga6
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:24 am to
FWIW... not a great track record

Last year they had...

1. LSU
2. USCw
3. Bama
4. OU
5. VT
6. Kansas St.
7. FSU
8. Michigan
9. USCe
10. Texas

well, 3 out of 10 is pretty good, right? Only Bama, FSU, and USCe finished in the top 10.
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 11:25 am
Posted by mizzoukills
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:30 am to
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:31 am to
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I certainly have LSU #1 going in, how could I not?


Yea, don't address the point we were talking about. No one said anything about LSUs ranking.

Deflect deflect deflect










ETA : how can you have LSU #1? Did you see how much they lost OMG
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 11:34 am
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:31 am to
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They should call them preseason projections. No one thinks USCe is the 3rd best team, but because of schedule, they have a great shot to be in the SEC championship game and thus ranked 3rd.


I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you because sometimes I'm fairly sure that is an actually picture of you that you are using for your avatar ... but, yes, there are those that believe SCAR has a chance to finish 3rd, or better, this year. There are plenty of people to be found and definitely not just SCAR fans.

Secondly, with regard to your schedule remark, I'm not sure what you mean exactly "with their schedule" but SCAR's schedule is more difficult than 8 outta 13 other SEC programs this year, based upon last year's results.

Thirdly, if SCAR ends-up in Atlanta, then who are all the other teams that you would rank ahead of them, if they are not worthy of 3rd? I realize it is subjective, but I'd seriously like to read who you honestly believe should be ranked-ahead of SCAR if we end-up in Atlanta and are, say, undefeated when we get there?
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:35 am to
Why is okie state 6. Are they gonna be that good or is that just an edgy pick
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:35 am to
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USC and UF at 3/4 is interesting. Not saying they aren't good but that's the highest I think i've seen either ranked.

I like OSU at 5; if they win out they are in likely


SN is a meaningless poll as is Lindy's, Athlons, etc., but it's fun to debate these things.

Also, I think Michigan beats OSU this year with what they have returning and the way Hoke has bolstered that defense with a solid blend of blue chippers and blue collar players.
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
Member since Jan 2012
4495 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:37 am to
scrooster,

Are you using the article posted here recently for those schedule rankings? We discussed the problems with that publication using overall records to determine schedule difficulty (for example an 8-4 FCS team would be considered more difficult than a 7-5 FBS team). Also, that was taking into account the non-conference games that have no bearing on getting to Atlanta.

We also never got to finish up the discussion of how you felt the SEC was giving UGA an unfair advantage even before the bridge schedules. I'm extremely curious to know your theory on that, so I'll pose the question again:

Do you believe the SEC has been cheating South Carolina back when the SEC schedule was 100% determined by rotation?

And if so, how do you believe that rotation was skewed against South Carolina? I'm honestly intrigued by this whole mindset.
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:39 am to
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Thirdly, if SCAR ends-up in Atlanta, then who are all the other teams that you would rank ahead of them, if they are not worthy of 3rd? I realize it is subjective, but I'd seriously like to read who you honestly believe should be ranked-ahead of SCAR if we end-up in Atlanta and are, say, undefeated when we get there?


Not trying to speak for anyone else here, but it's my opinion that if SCAR is undefeated going into Atlanta there is no way they should be ranked any worse than 2nd in the country.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:39 am to
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but, yes, there are those that believe SCAR has a chance to finish 3rd, or better, this year.
Which is why I said it should be called a projection and not a ranking. No one would rank them third if they were listing the best teams and not being influenced by likely results due to schedule (not just south carolina's, but other teams such as LSU, UGA, aTm, etc.).

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Secondly, with regard to your schedule remark, I'm not sure what you mean exactly "with their schedule"
Fisrt, I didn't say w"with their schedule." I was referring not only to South Carolina's schedule but also many others. As for USC's, it simply is more favorable for them to represent the east than it was last year. UGA's schedule is more difficult and USCe doesn't play Alabama, LSU or aTm from the west.

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Thirdly, if SCAR ends-up in Atlanta, then who are all the other teams that you would rank ahead of them, if they are not worthy of 3rd?
It is honestly like you are a functioning retard. Re-read my post very slowly so you understand what I was saying.
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 12:02 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41688 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:39 am to
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Why don't you put this phrase as your sig? Then you won't have to type it out every time.


Because the SECR needs to be aggressively reminded of this fact every time it comes up. So......

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bama and A&M lost more starters than LSU.....and we played more freshmen and sophomores than anyone in the country
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:41 am to
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Pretty crazy how Stanford has become a power. They were a doormat 5 years ago.
testament to how good of a coach harbaugh is. and the same goes for shaw
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150300 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:43 am to
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Why is okie state 6. Are they gonna be that good or is that just an edgy pick
the big 12 is wide open this year. you can see any number of teams from tcu/ok state/ou/tu take it this year. i can ok state winning the conference just as much as i can see them going 4-5 in conference play
Posted by sooper_rebel
Olive Branch, Mississippi
Member since Jun 2012
696 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:48 am to
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3. Cocks





You'll take 3 cocks?
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
35281 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:58 am to
Neither LSU or UGA belong in the top 15 never mind top 10.
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:59 am to
Troll harder.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30839 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 12:00 pm to
I disagree. I think both teams deserve to be in the top 15. UF, LSU, and UGA are all pretty similar teams.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 12:02 pm to
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The most repeated post on the forum. If I say it enough...


actually...it's not repeated enough
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
35281 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 12:03 pm to
UGA's defensive is going to be hor garbage.
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