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South Carolina and the ACC :: Why the divorce?

Posted on 10/8/18 at 5:51 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 5:51 pm
Just read that the Cocks were founding members of the ACC; I didn’t realize that (I’m still learnin’ about all y’all’s histories; go easy on me).

Why the breakup? Yeah I could Google it, but I’d rather hear the story from friends. Was it a money deal? Hurt feelings? Logistics?

I was wholly committed to the Ags leaving the B12– that was never anything but a Frankenstein conference. But I still admittedly feel a [dysfunctional] allegiance towards the SWC. I’m wondering whether y’all have any deep-seated, historical feelz for the ACC?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 5:54 pm to
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I was wholly committed to the Ags leaving the B12–


That is because aTm cowardly ran away from UT
Posted by Phat Phil
Krispy Kreme
Member since May 2010
7372 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 5:56 pm to
We need to kick out expansion teams (illegal imigrants) to where they came from.

MSGA
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43977 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 5:57 pm to
Yes.
That’s exactly why we accepted the SEC invite.
I’m grateful to you for getting that post out of the way.
But this thread isn’t about Texas A&M.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95868 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:01 pm to
North Carolina schools treated both South Carolina schools worse than Texas treats Big12 schools. Both clemson and South Carolina were gonna leave, but only we had the balls.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:02 pm to
Tobacco Road politics. Us and Clemson were (at the time) treated like redheaded stepchildren by them even tho we were founding members. The NC schools were their darlings. Clemson was supposed to leave with us but wimped out at the last second. We, on the other hand, flipped 'em off and yelled kiss our asses as we left those assclowns behind. Wandered the deserts of independent teams until joining the SEC. (Got in a buttload of fist fights on the field with Miami, who was also independent and whom SC played regularly as such, during the independent stint...still bad blood between SC and Miami)

ETA: There we go again, CNB.
This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 6:04 pm
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95868 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:04 pm to
We really are the same people
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43977 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:05 pm to
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Tobacco Road politics

Why did they treat y’all like stepchildren?
Was it a basketball issue?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98909 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:06 pm to
I’m short, frick UNC and Duke.

Totally acceptable.
Posted by thatguy45
Your alter's mom's basement
Member since Sep 2017
18878 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:07 pm to
We will build a wall along the edge of the conference and keep the trash out. Georgia Tech is gonna pay for it for running from us
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
95868 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:09 pm to
Pretty much. North Carolina schools had more lenient admission standards while SC schools were held to a much more strict standard. Just one example.

Or at least that’s the way I’ve always understood it. Obviously I wasn’t alive then
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:14 pm to
Maybe you’re brother and sister?
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43977 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

We need to kick out expansion teams (illegal imigrants)

Oh, we’re very legal, vato.
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:15 pm to
We've been telling y'all forever now that we're the same person but y'all never take us seriously.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54617 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

Just read that the Cocks were founding members of the ACC


1896 - Taters join the SIAA (year after it formed)
1903 - TAMU joined the SIAA
1914 - TAMU left the SIAA
1915 - South Carolina joined the SIAA


1922 - SoCon splits from the SIAA
Clemson (1921) and South Carolina (1922) are in the early members


1932 - SEC splits from SoCon with schools west of the mountains

1953 - ACC splits from the SoCon with schools east of the mountains


This is relevant in an Age of Rail and no federal highway system


By the 1970's highway travel by automobile has replaced rail travel by train. The mountains once separating the areas is now less of an obstacle


This post was edited on 10/8/18 at 6:18 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35938 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:21 pm to
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Why did they treat y’all like stepchildren? 
Was it a basketball issue?


It was primarily due to Frank McGuire and our team's basketball success in the 1960's. The NC schools raised academic standards for student athletes, but created an exceptions committee stacked with NC folks. They routinely denied exceptions for USC and Clemson and granted them for UNC, State, Duke and WF. Also, UNC and Duke had us and Clemson play our home basketball games against them in Charlotte. Gamecock old timers hate UNC almost as much as Clemson.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43977 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 6:31 pm to
Good stuff.
Thanks, y’all.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 7:18 pm to
So you’re inbred?
We do like to get freaky down south
Posted by Carolina_Girl
South Cackalacky
Member since Apr 2012
23973 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 7:25 pm to
More like multiple personalities.
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
9057 posts
Posted on 10/8/18 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

Pretty much. North Carolina schools had more lenient admission standards while SC schools were held to a much more strict standard. Just one example.

Or at least that’s the way I’ve always understood it. Obviously I wasn’t alive then


Unc and Duke had more lenient admission than scar and clem?
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