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Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:12 pm to TigerLunatik
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It's yet another example of the "you're either with us or against us" mentality that is so dumb. A guy standing for the anthem because of his religious beliefs is seen as the one that doesn't have his priorities straight. This is where we're at with this stuff now.
The reason he's being questioned is because he used some bullshite religious beliefs crap instead of just saying "my personal choice" , religion has NO tenets that say you SHOULDN'T protest against Social Injustices & Police Brutality, he just pulled religion outta his rear end hoping that once he mentioned religion , that no one would peel back the layers of the Onion to see what his real reasons are
Simply don't use religion as a crutch and say, "I have my personal reasons"
No one cares if he stands, until he uses religion as a "cover", then folks want to question his true intentions
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:15 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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Other than Trumpf-tards and the idiot MAGA Hat wearing crowd, no one seriously believes that BLM supports marxism in any way
Black Lives Matter co-founder describes herself as ‘trained Marxist’
WATCH: Black Lives Matter Founder Proudly Admits BLM Is A Radical Marxist Organization
Before jumping on a bandwagon, you should know where the wagon is headed.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:16 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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The reason he's being questioned is because he used some bullshite religious beliefs crap instead of just saying "my personal choice"
His reasons are bullshite. Your reasons are important.
You get upset when people question the motives of those in the BLM movement but have no problem questioning another person's motives when exercising their rights. Could you any more of a hypocrite?
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:16 pm to stomp
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letting both sides display causes.
Lol we all know this won’t happen. Any opposing view to the Marxists will be silenced
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:18 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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The melt queen and king are here, folks.
Bow down to the glorious snowflakes.
You're on an SEC board crying about Truml daily.
Why are leftists such hypocrites? Is it a requirement?
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:18 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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The reason he's being questioned is because he used some bull shite religious beliefs crap instead of just saying "my personal choice" , religion has NO tenets that say you SHOULDN'T protest against Social Injustices & Police Brutality, he just pulled religion outta his rear end hoping that once he mentioned religion , that no one would peel back the layers of the Onion to see what his real reasons are
Dude. You don't like it because he said why he would not kneel? I guess you are one of those that believe everyone has a right to speak freely unless they say something you don't like?
He didn't criticize those who did kneel. He was asked why he did not kneel and he explained.
I'm sure you were upset when Kaepernick explained why he did kneel instead of just saying, "My personal choice."
This post was edited on 8/1/20 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:20 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Yet you defend athletes and other entertainers protesting against isolated cases of murder by police
Those Athletes have found a way to bring attention to SJ Initiatives without INTERRUPTING THE GAME, an Athlete has never interrupted a game with SJ Initiatives, you don't pay for a Ticket to see an Athlete stand for the Anthem because that is WHAT YOU WOULD DO, you pay to see an athlete PLAY TO WIN THE GAME
They do that, and they do it in spades
That is nothing like you discriminating against a potential customer that might gay or a gay co-worker that is producing like he should to help the Company turn a profit
Sorry pal, these 2 situations are NOT the same, not even close
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:21 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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No one cares if he stands, until he uses religion as a "cover", then folks want to question his true intentions
A cover? What exactly do you think he was covering?
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:23 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
Lol A Moo State fan calling others stupid. That’s rich and if it’s just a “conspiracy” why is big tech trying to hard to censor it. Open your eyes little sheep
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:24 pm to DawgsLife
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What exactly do you think he was covering?
Being racist obviously.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:28 pm to DawgsLife
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Dude. You don't like it because he said why he would not kneel? I guess you are one of those that believe everyone has a right to speak freely unless they say something you don't like? ?
He didn't criticize those who did kneel. He was asked why he did not kneel and he explained. ?
I'm sure you were upset when Kaepernick explained why he did kneel instead of just saying, "My personal choice."
Nope
I don't care why he wouldn't kneel, don't care, but don't use religion as a crutch when none of the tenets of his religion have anything to do with not publicly kneeling to bring attention to SJ Initiatives
If he doesn't want to say why he won't kneel--- fine, but don't use religion as some sort of shield from further questions, just say personal reasons and keep it moving
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:32 pm to DawgsLife
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A cover? What exactly do you think he was covering?
Don't know, nor do I care, but don't use religion as an excuse, when there are no tenets of his religion that have anything to do with standing for the Natl Anthem
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:33 pm to Jjdoc
That’s conflating of a lot of things and intellectually dishonest from start to finish but whatever.
Your life is incredible hard and you’re so oppressed. There, do you feel better now?
Your life is incredible hard and you’re so oppressed. There, do you feel better now?
This post was edited on 8/1/20 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:34 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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I don't care why he wouldn't kneel, don't care, but don't use religion as a crutch when none of the tenets of his religion have anything to do with not publicly kneeling to bring attention to SJ Initiatives
That's not a crutch. he was asked....and he told them. He told you....he kneels before no man or organization or cause. He kneels for Christ only. If you can support one cause why can't you support the other cause?
quote:He did say why he wouldn't kneel. Why do you find it so hard to believe him?
If he doesn't want to say why he won't kneel
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:35 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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none of the tenets of his religion have anything to do with not publicly kneeling to bring attention to SJ Initiatives
Did he say what his religion was and did he say that his religion is against social justice?
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:40 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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Don't know, nor do I care, but don't use religion as an excuse, when there are no tenets of his religion that have anything to do with standing for the Natl Anthem
Was it a reason or an excuse when Kaepernick said he knelt to protest police brutality? If it was an excuse, then you should be openly criticizing him. If it was a reason then you should accept the Christians answer as well. Being a Christian is a very real, very personal thing. It isn't something that Christians do, it is who they are. As I have explained....he refuses to kneel before any man or cause except for Christ.
I have never been discriminated against, therefore it is difficult for me to understand racism and discrimination. It seems plain that since you are not a Christian (guessing) that it is difficult for you to accept and understand his feelings. It doesn't make either side more or less correct or valid, though.
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:42 pm to DawgsLife
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That's not a crutch. he was asked....and he told them. He told you....he kneels before no man or organization or cause. He kneels for Christ only. If you can support one cause why can't you support the other cause?
That's cool
I'm fine with his answer, but don't lay that at the feet of religion
I'm pretty sure Christianity's tenets don't say anything about only kneeling for Christ, and if so it is meant in a metaphorical way and not in a literal way
I wonder will he kneel when he proposes to his future wife, assuming he's not already married?
Posted on 8/1/20 at 12:43 pm to TigerLunatik
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Did he say what his religion was and did he say that his religion is against social justice?
I know this was directed at him....and I am hoping he will read this, too:
“Absolutely [I believe] that Black lives matter,” Isaac said. “A lot went into my decision and part of it is my thought that kneeling or wearing a black lives matter t-shirt don’t go hand in hand with supporting black lives.”
“My life has been supported by the gospel of Jesus Christ,” Isaac continued. “Everyone is made in the image of God and we all share in His glory. Each and everyone of us each and every day do things we shouldn’t do. We say things we shouldn’t say. We hate and dislike people that we shouldn’t hate and dislike. And sometimes it gets to the point where we point fingers about whose evil is worse, and sometimes it comes down to simply whose evil is most visible. I felt like I wanted just take a stand on — I felt like we all make mistakes but I think the gospel of Jesus Christ is that there’s grace for us. And that Jesus came and died for our sins. And that we all will come to an understanding of that and that God wants to have a relationship with us.”
Here is something else written about the player by a sportswriter:
Jonathan Isaac is an ordained minister, someone who gave money to make sure kids got fed when COVID closed schools, led a drive to support Hurricane Dorian victims and donates to Central Florida literacy programs.
And as he stood during the anthem today, he prayed.
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