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So why can we not have CFB again?
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:23 pm
Not really making sense. Every other sports is set to start. Tennis. Golf. Nascar. NFL. NHL. NBA. WNBA is even playing and no one even watches it.
Why is Covid more dangerous to CFB players, fans, or coaches than other sports?
Seems very simple. If a kid wants to sit out, grant him a redshirt or an additional redshirt if he already has redshirted. Then play the fricking game. It's very simple. Every other sport figured this shite out.
Why is Covid more dangerous to CFB players, fans, or coaches than other sports?
Seems very simple. If a kid wants to sit out, grant him a redshirt or an additional redshirt if he already has redshirted. Then play the fricking game. It's very simple. Every other sport figured this shite out.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:27 pm to Gatorbait2008
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So why can we not have CFB again?
I get your argument, but who said we're not having CFB?
Some think it may be in jeopardy, but at least at this point it's still on?
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:30 pm to Gatorbait2008
Because it exposes the issue in CFB of a revenue producing professional sport vs the university line of "student athletes." If you are actually concerned about education and students, you dont play this year.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:32 pm to AUCE05
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If you are actually concerned about education and students, you dont play this year
How so?
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:34 pm to Gatorbait2008
One thing is your list is all made from paid professionals. Its their job. Its easier. Plus you cant just let football play and cancel all the other fall/spring sports. That would be a nightmare.
Main thing to me though is if god forbid a student athlete gets sick and dies then the school would be destroyed in public opinion and maybe in court.
We all know some kid wanting to get into the NFL isn't going to voluntarily sit out and possibly lose his starting spot. So in a sense the kids would be pressured into playing and hence the huge liability if something goes wrong.
Main thing to me though is if god forbid a student athlete gets sick and dies then the school would be destroyed in public opinion and maybe in court.
We all know some kid wanting to get into the NFL isn't going to voluntarily sit out and possibly lose his starting spot. So in a sense the kids would be pressured into playing and hence the huge liability if something goes wrong.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:35 pm to Gatorbait2008
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Not really making sense. Every other sports is set to start. Tennis. Golf. Nascar. NFL. NHL. NBA. WNBA is even playing and no one even watches it.
Many people may not want to hear it, but the big difference is ultimately going to be professional players are getting paid to play. College players aren't. Everything always ultimately boils down to money, which is why the non-conference games were cancelled. It had little to do with safety concerns and everything to do with teams not wanting to pay OOC teams a million dollars to come play them when they're already going to take a bath not having fans at games. What's going to happen is the NCAA hits the reset button like they did with spring sports. They'll likely need to extend roster limits for the 2021 season as well like they did for baseball.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:36 pm to Gatorbait2008
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Not really making sense. Every other sports is set to start. Tennis. Golf. Nascar. NFL. NHL. NBA. WNBA is even playing and no one even watches it.
Why is Covid more dangerous to CFB players, fans, or coaches than other sports?
Seems very simple. If a kid wants to sit out, grant him a redshirt or an additional redshirt if he already has redshirted. Then play the fricking game. It's very simple. Every other sport figured this shite out.
Big time CFB has made the major mistake of attaching itself to Academia & Amateurism as a way to hogg all the money and keep that money away from the Players, that's cute when trying to win the public perception war vs the Players asking to get paid
By doing this, CFB has painted itself into a corner trying to play games and jump start college sports in a Pandemic, if CFB had a more honest definition of what they really are, they wouldn't be in this situation
Those Sports you listed above are honest about what they really are, that's why it's so easy for them to re start
Everything going on now in big-time College Sports is to maintain the ruse of pure Amateurism
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:44 pm to AUCE05
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Because it exposes the issue in CFB of a revenue producing professional sport vs the university line of "student athletes." If you are actually concerned about education and students, you dont play this year.
This.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:54 pm to AUCE05
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Because it exposes the issue in CFB of a revenue producing professional sport vs the university line of "student athletes." If you are actually concerned about education and students, you dont play this year.
The problem is - students aren't in the age group for those who are at risk. The flu is more deadly to them.
The mortality rate for people under 70 is 0.04%. Almost half of all deaths in the US have come from nursing homes.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:55 pm to Gatorbait2008
I guess the difference with college sports is that there are so many teams, players, staff, venues, etc. Much harder to control and regulate.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:57 pm to AUCE05
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Because it exposes the issue in CFB of a revenue producing professional sport vs the university line of "student athletes."
Btw, as for this part. What is about to exposed is that CFB is not for profit and it pays for many other sports at the schools. And that most football programs lose money rather than make it.
So if your goal is to reduce the opportunities for future student athletes to get a free education, go ahead and continue this shitty arse myth.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:58 pm to 3down10
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The problem is - students aren't in the age group for those who are at risk. The flu is more deadly to them.
What would you say about potential long term damage to their respiratory, circulatory, and/or nervous system as opposed to simply saying "They ain't dead so they're fine?"
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:02 pm to Gatorbait2008
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Tennis. Golf. Nascar. NFL. NHL. NBA. WNBA is even playing and no one even watches it.
Half of those sports don't involve multiple athletes in close proximity all the time. Golf, Tennis, and NASCAR are easy to keep folks separated.
NBA, WNBA, NHL are smaller groups of players together but you are correct that they are put at risk. The NFL is the only one that comes close to team sizes in step with college football teams, but even then an SEC team has, what? 85 scholarship players and can technically have as many as 125 players on their active roster. If 100 suit up on the sidelines, that's double or so of an NFL sideline.
Still, I agree it's not impossible. The NFL released a special face shield that players can wear with their helmets. College teams could adopt that, keep players separated (especially grouping them by position, like offense only and defense only areas).
I think the biggest thing is that if a team gets a run of the virus, we don't know how that would affect them while they're exercising (or running in 90+ degree heat, in full pads, etc). Couple that with the fact that the universities would have to foot the bill for any scholarship athletes going to the hospital, and they're going to be cautious.
I completely think it's possible, for the players. The fans in the stands? I'm not sure how you make that work unless you've given up on any illusion of control.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:02 pm to 3down10
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The problem is - students aren't in the age group for those who are at risk. The flu is more deadly to them.
The mortality rate for people under 70 is 0.04%. Almost half of all deaths in the US have come from nursing homes
Everything you say is correct.
What you haven't said is that many young people are coming out of covid with scarred lungs.
Many young people are having other issues show up after covid affecting circulation and the vascular system.
It is one of the challenges with novel viruses. What is an anomaly and what is a characteristic of concern that we should know about but haven't verified yet.
I hope it is nothing for young people. But there are still unknowns about this virus 7 months in.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:05 pm to meansonny
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What you haven't said is that many young people are coming out of covid with scarred lungs.
Many young people are having other issues show up after covid affecting circulation and the vascular system.
Because it's mostly false. It's more rare than death.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:07 pm to skrayper
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Half of those sports don't involve multiple athletes in close proximity all the time. Golf, Tennis, and NASCAR are easy to keep folks separated.
NBA, WNBA, NHL are smaller groups of players together but you are correct that they are put at risk. The NFL is the only one that comes close to team sizes in step with college football teams, but even then an SEC team has, what? 85 scholarship players and can technically have as many as 125 players on their active roster. If 100 suit up on the sidelines, that's double or so of an NFL sideline.
Still, I agree it's not impossible. The NFL released a special face shield that players can wear with their helmets. College teams could adopt that, keep players separated (especially grouping them by position, like offense only and defense only areas).
I think the biggest thing is that if a team gets a run of the virus, we don't know how that would affect them while they're exercising (or running in 90+ degree heat, in full pads, etc). Couple that with the fact that the universities would have to foot the bill for any scholarship athletes going to the hospital, and they're going to be cautious.
I completely think it's possible, for the players. The fans in the stands? I'm not sure how you make that work unless you've given up on any illusion of control.
College football players have a higher chance of dying due to the flu this coming year.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:13 pm to 3down10
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Because it's mostly false. It's more rare than death
Lol. Ok.
Illness is not more rare than death.
There are many viruses that never leave the body (chicken pox, herpes/mono,HPV).
There are consequences to scarred lungs that can affect a person's ability to fight off future infections (flu, pneumonia).
People are having blood clots and aneurisms after covid (including young people). It is common knowledge right now that covid affects different blood types differently.
You can just brush everything aside today and say whoops later (i.e. governor Cuomo sending covid cases back into nursing homes) or show caution now and hope to learn more in the early stages of the virus.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:17 pm to meansonny
3dumb has been trying to downplay the situation for months.
He’s one of those A1abana fans that just want some sort of “rUhVeNgE” for the massive letdowns they’ve had the last two years.
He doesn’t care about player health - much like Lou Sabah.
Sad.
He’s one of those A1abana fans that just want some sort of “rUhVeNgE” for the massive letdowns they’ve had the last two years.
He doesn’t care about player health - much like Lou Sabah.
Sad.
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:18 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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Big time CFB has made the major mistake of attaching itself to Academia & Amateurism
COLLEGE football being attached to Colleges?!? Can you believe that?
Posted on 7/14/20 at 2:19 pm to 3down10
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College football players have a higher chance of dying due to the flu this coming year.
You absolutely have no way of knowing the accuracy of that statement.
Just because you declare something as an absolute doesn't actually make it one.
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