Started By
Message

So is there any new news on SEC pods when Texas and OU join?

Posted on 8/15/22 at 12:49 am
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 12:49 am
I know we've all made our own suggestions etc but it's not that far off. Anyone heard anything new discussed lately as in a guest on a radio show with ties to the conference etc?
Posted by Uga Alum
Member since Jul 2022
3447 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:16 am to
No pods. Likely 3-6 model.
Posted by MosesRAB93
Sachse, TX (near Dallas)
Member since Apr 2014
280 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 6:36 am to
As it should be. Looking forward to home and home every 4 years.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29341 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 6:40 am to
Definitely not pods. Coaches have let it slip
Posted by rbtgoodson
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
269 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 6:51 am to
quote:

Definitely not pods. Coaches have let it slip


It's a mistake on the part of the conference to do away with divisions, and if the NFL can do four divisions of four for each conference then there's no reason as to why the SEC can't, too.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9441 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 7:24 am to
quote:

It's a mistake on the part of the conference to do away with divisions, and if the NFL can do four divisions of four for each conference then there's no reason as to why the SEC can't, too.


I think four divisions of four make a cleaner presentation than the 3-6 model, and that does have some value. It would also be fun to see a four-team conference playoff featuring the division winners, but that seems like it’s not going to happen anytime soon.

But the 3-6 model means each program’s most important rivalries can be maintained, you play every other program within two years, and it’s easy to maintain a two-team conference championship. And it will be entertaining to see which fans are the most upset about their permanent rival draws.
This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 7:25 am
Posted by rbtgoodson
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
269 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 7:32 am to
Mate, it's the same format (a 3-6 model or a 3-5 model) with or without divisions, so we may as well keep the divisions.
This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 7:37 am
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30054 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 7:35 am to
quote:

But the 3-6 model means each program’s most important rivalries can be maintained, you play every other program within two years,


The rivalries have to be maintained.




Uga Aub has to continue.
Ala Ten has to continue.
I would emphatically ask that UF LSU continue.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
9900 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 7:38 am to
This was the latest proposal the SEC announced and likely to be the final but it hasn't yet been approved by all schools (Vanderbilt and Mississippi State are still holding out / deliberating)


Pod 1:
Vanderbilt

Pod 2:
Alabama
Missouri

Pod 3:
Oklahoma
Georgia
Tennessee
Mississippi State

Pod 4:
Auburn
Texas

Pod 5:
South Carolina
Florida
LSU
Ole Miss

Pod 6:
Arkansas
Texas
Kentucky
Posted by multicampus
Member since Oct 2021
1191 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 7:43 am to
quote:

It's a mistake on the part of the conference to do away with divisions, and if the NFL can do four divisions of four for each conference then there's no reason as to why the SEC can't, too.


Wouldn't that require a 4-team playoff for the SEC Championship?
Posted by rbtgoodson
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
269 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 7:51 am to
quote:

Wouldn't that require a 4-team playoff for the SEC Championship?


Yes and no. For example, you could take the divisional winners and sort them by the same standards that we currently use for tiebreakers to go to Atlanta.

SEC West: Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, and Texas
SEC South: A&M, LSU, Mississippi State, and Ole Miss
SEC North: Alabama, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Vanderbilt
SEC East: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina

3 Divisional
1 OOD Rivalry
4 Rotational

Divisions is a better format, and it sets us up nicely for an expansion to 20 teams (if it's necessary).
This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 7:54 am
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 7:56 am to
quote:

the 3-6 model means Alabama’s most important rivalries can be maintained


Fixed and don’t think for a second that’s not what’s driving it.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9441 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Mate, it's the same format (a 3-6 model or a 3-5 model) with or without divisions, so we may as well keep the divisions.


Mate, no it is not.

A 3-6 set-up means Auburn could have say Alabama, Georgia, and Miss St. as their three rivals (just for examples I don't care to hear from angry Barners about how Miss St. wouldn't be the third team). But in a 3-6 set-up, Georgia doesn't have to have Alabama, Auburn, and Miss St. as its three teams like it would in a division based on the above example Auburn rivals. Georgia could have Auburn, Florida, and Kentucky (again, just examples) as its three permanent rivals. The whole point of a three permanent rival set-up is that it does not have the limitations of traditional divisions and would allow the SEC to maintain more of the annual rivalries that matter most.

There is no way to make four divisions of four without some rivalries getting dumped, three permanent rivals largely avoid that issue.
This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 8:24 am
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
7772 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:25 am to
quote:

Wouldn't that require a 4-team playoff for the SEC Championship?




No, because two divisions would essentially play each other, so you would still have a team with the best record from two divisions. Example

Pod A plays pod B, then one permanent rival to have a total of 8 conference games. You play everyone once in four years.

Florida Arkansas
Georgia Missouri
Kentuck Oklahoma
South Carolina Texas

Pod C plays pod D

Alabama LSU
Auburn Mississippi State
Tennessee Ole Miss
Vanderbilt Texas A&M

You take the winner of each of these two groups to play in the SEC championship. Then A plays C the following year. There will be some slight changes when you are schedule to play the division with your permanent rival, but that can be done by playing another school that is already scheduled to play their rival.
This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 8:26 am
Posted by Buster83
Member since Aug 2021
3434 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:27 am to
quote:


So is there any new news on SEC pods when Texas and OU join?


No, they have not decided yet
Posted by bunkerhill
Georgia
Member since Oct 2017
1368 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:57 am to
I think the 3-6 model makes the most sense. Do away with divisions, the two highest ranked teams play in the SECCG. You will have to have plenty of tie-breaker rules to determine the pecking order. This way you get to maintain rivalries plus play everyone else home and away every four years.

I don't know if big ten has announced how they are going to set up schedules when their two new add-ons come into the league.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26498 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 8:59 am to
quote:

if the NFL can do four divisions of four for each conference then there's no reason as to why the SEC can't, too.


This isn't the NFL, for now.
Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
5858 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 9:02 am to
quote:

SEC East: Auburn, Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina


Posted by rbtgoodson
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
269 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 9:11 am to
You do realize that the divisions would be structured in such a way as to account for the rivalries... right?
This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 9:13 am
Posted by Hawgleg
Member since Jan 2022
131 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 10:16 am to
So who would Arkansas permanent rivals be?
Page 1 2
Jump to page
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 2Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter