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SMU the SWC and auburn

Posted on 11/17/10 at 12:53 am
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 12:53 am
Everyone is waiting for the hammer to drop on auburn. Some are happy, so might masterbate if cam gets ruled ineligible. Some are so excited, they shiver at the anticipation of auburn getting sanctions or even better yet the "Death Penalty".

Let us not forget SMU when they got the death penalty. It was so harsh it ended up disbanding the SWC, just to get away from the negative image.

Now, if half of what we here is true and it could be at more then one place, then the outcomes could be disastrous. I won't get into even trying to connect the dots, but be rest assured there is sure to be a "DOT" over every sec school in one way or another, or every school in the ncaa for that matter.

Our problem is the sec is considered by just about everyone to be the best conference, and has wiped the floor with everyone for almost a decade. I just can't shake the feeling that one day everyone else in the country will turn around and say "told you so".

We all want to win. WIn at all cost. it's naive to think that this stuff only go's on at auburn. Our mantra and everyone else's is "just win". We don't care how, put the most talented players on the field, pay your coach 4 mil and you better win.

like jessie palmer said, "there are alot of glass houses down there".

AU is a fine football team, i honestly think some people are jealous or just want them gone so we don't have to deal with it in the future. If they are caught, then yes, they should be punished. But none of us should sit here and think this is good. Especially seeing how big the scope of this might be.

i am not saying everyone is viewing the situation like this, but i will admit that I myself was giddy about it for awhile. But the allegations that are being put forth make smu look like daycare.

And none of us should be happy about that. This is our heritage, our place and our freedom. I would hate to see how much it really means to me if it gets taken away.

flame away.

This post was edited on 11/17/10 at 12:54 am
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
36744 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 12:54 am to
dude you tryin to cause epilepsy from makin me read that shite? cliff notes are appreciated.
Posted by BamaDixi
Underneath Bryant-Denny
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/17/10 at 12:55 am to
blame Auburn.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 12:56 am to
quote:

dude you tryin to cause epilepsy from makin me read that shite? cliff notes are appreciated.


be careful what you wish for.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40881 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 12:58 am to
quote:

blame Auburn.


i do. And i just can't understand for the life of me, why the hell do they let pat dye (they just honored him ya know) or lowder anywhere in around auburn.

And this is my point. I do blame auburn, but we might all suffer. the fact is, it is all a house of cards, and one leg is about to be takin out.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/17/10 at 1:05 am to
well i got through it.....a few holes in your theory are as follows.
1. The SWC needed SMU- back in the hayday arkansas and Texas carried the conference.
2. The SWC collapsed because of the corruption- the swc wasn't financially sound and when tv revenue came into a huge roll, the SWC only had the texas market. it wasn't as appealing as other conferences.
The corruption was rampant but i don't think it was the final say in the collapsing of the conference.
Posted by drtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
1668 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 1:08 am to
some houses are made of a little more glass. like auburn's and probably alabama. bama has been doing it for much longer, so they're better at hiding it. auburn just isn't as good as doing it as them.

these types of issues is why im glad we have les miles. as questionable as some of his decisions are, i can sleep easy at nite knowing we won't have to mess with this crap at lsu.
Posted by Fat Fingers
Member since Nov 2010
332 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 1:14 am to
oklahogir,
You are correct. I remember the scandal and there other issues that caused the SWC to fold over on itself and explode. However, to dreaux's point. A HUGE scandal as this one is brewing up to be will have collateral damage across the SEC. It could be tremendously bad for Auburn. But in the end we will all get splattered when it hits the fan.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3735 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 1:31 am to
So very right. Reading about the gambling angle made me remember that not all that long ago an SEC player got in trouble trying to get in a casino.

This post was edited on 11/17/10 at 1:32 am
Posted by Ice Box
Member since Aug 2010
521 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 2:20 am to
I agree to an extent to wt you are saying. If Auburn in found guilty I believe they will get more than just a slap on the wrist. If it is to big it could very well cause problems to the whole conference. It's kinda like the old saying one bad apple spoils the whole bunch... Its going to be real interesting to see how this whole thing plays out. If this turns out bad which I think it will, it has effected the whole college scene. The rankings would be would be completely different in conference and nationally. LSU would probably be number 1 or 2 in the nation.

All Auburn fans are being selfish and pretty much saying fuk the world.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19101 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 2:26 am to
quote:

the SWC only had the texas market. it wasn't as appealing as other conferences.
The corruption was rampant but i don't think it was the final say in the collapsing of the conference.

True. The SWC had no progressive intentions. Frank Broyles was having intermittent impulsive brain spasms of ingenuity at the time and went for it. We had been wanting out for some time, so when the time came for SEC expansion, it was right down our alley. The NCAA was going berserk all over, not only with the SWC, but SMU tended to flaunt it a bit more and got nailed the worst. Of course, as with most breakups, our exes blamed us for the demise.

ETA: If Auburn is found guilty of serious infractions, the NCAA might just go rampantly berserk once again. There could be serious repercussions, and not only in the SEC. It's a fire that's hard to put out.
This post was edited on 11/17/10 at 2:45 am
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 6:02 am to
SMU did not kill the SW conference, Arkansas did. the conference was doomed because all of the schools were texas based and arky was treated like the red headed step child. when they left, all of the remaining schools except texas and texas a&m were losers financially. those two got tired of sharing tv revenues and bowl revenues with a bunch of losers that never contributed to the pot.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 6:14 am to
GrandDad is the only non-Hog fan that understands how the SWC ended.


FTR, SMU had a good program before the death penalty. Houston had some good teams in football and a very good basketball program. The SWC was a better conference than most on here give it credit for.
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