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BrerTiger
Auburn Fan
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
15531 posts

re: Smart and Cam
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That’s because Will Wade was right in the middle of it - Vhizik wasnt


If Chizik was on a wiretap saying what Wade said but re: Cam instead of Javonte, it would've been like 1000 Hiroshimas.


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Pettifogger
Atlanta Braves Fan
Member since Feb 2012
53243 posts

re: Smart and Cam
I don't think Cam got any major payoff for Auburn, and there is absolutely zero evidence he did.

Cam and Cecil got burned bc MSU is poor. You can't play that card over and over in the same conference. The far likelier scenario is that the only reason Cecil was looking at MSU (instead of AU and Oklahoma) is because they thought they could get something out of a lesser program. It's a HS kid taking the scholly from an FCS school rather than walking on at a major conference school.

Did Cam get the everyday benefits most star players do here and there (probably no orchestrated payoff) - probably. But I'd absolutely bet Cam never got a defined payoff for his commitment.


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SECdragonmaster
Auburn Fan
Putting the sexy back in dyslexia.
Member since Dec 2013
9277 posts

re: Smart and Cam
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Only the most ignorant of Auburn fans actually think that Cam didn't get paid by someone to play for Auburn.


No. Only the most ignorant fans think Auburn needed to pay him to get him on campus.

Cam was not a big time recruit. Oklahoma (Stoops) and Tennessee (Kiffin) both looked at him as a tight end and both said he and his family never asked for money.

Auburn was competing against miss state for his signature and that does not require money. Auburn is better in every way (in football).

Now, do I think Auburn cheats? Yes because everyone does it. But we don’t cheat on prospects that look like they “might have” potential. Cam was potential and turned out better than that.

Auburn paid him nothing. In return, we got a natty and rent space in the heads of rivals for eternity.

If this exact story involved a player like Byron Cowart or Leon Hart - I would not be so sure of myself. Because they were national top 20 players and every school wanted them.


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Bulldogblitz
Member since Dec 2018
2286 posts

re: Smart and Cam
LOL this'll go over great with the idiot that believes otherwise. Incoming in 3, 2, ....


Leto II
Auburn Fan
Duncan, Idaho
Member since Dec 2018
576 posts

re: Smart and Cam
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the idiot

And here you are...


Bulldogblitz
Member since Dec 2018
2286 posts

re: Smart and Cam
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And here you are...
haven't hacked your account so apparently you like self deprecating


Leto II
Auburn Fan
Duncan, Idaho
Member since Dec 2018
576 posts

re: Smart and Cam
Sorry you are confused. Read the posts above you and then evaluate why you are an idiot for believing what you do.


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RandySavage
Auburn Fan
Member since May 2012
20991 posts

re: Smart and Cam
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none of his competitors wanted him to get caught


lol, the desperation for Auburn to "get caught" was unlike anything this site has ever seen and 9 years later people are still salty about it.


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MrAUTigers
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Florida
Member since Sep 2013
19323 posts
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re: Smart and Cam
There really are no similarities between the two. One was rumor mongering and the other is recorded. One the FEDS and NCAA investigated. The other....the NCAA has yet to get their paws on.


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mckibaj
Auburn Fan
Member since Nov 2010
4718 posts

re: Smart and Cam
Big difference in Auburn and LSU here.

Kenny Rogers was the "agent" for Cam. He admitted he sought money for Cam at MSU (his former team) but had never talked to Auburn. Rogers handed over all his texts between himself and Cecil and they were all about MSU. Auburn also handed over all phone records of Chizik, Luper, and Malzahn with the investigation. Cam and his parents submitted their bank records and phone records.

Christian Dawkins is the "agent" and known middleman for college basketball. He and the LSU coach had direct communications and were caught on a wiretap.


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LSU Fan
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
15172 posts

re: Smart and Cam
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I see some very very strong similarities here


Except LSU won without JSmart.


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TailbackU
Auburn Fan
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
4776 posts

re: Smart and Cam
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You pandering bitch. There was zero evidence linking Auburn to NCAA violations.


They all know this. They just like to bring it up to troll us. Chizik never did a damn thing wrong.


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Irons Puppet
Auburn Fan
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
13082 posts

re: Smart and Cam
We will see after a year of having the NCAA probe every orifice in their body if LSU comes out clean like Auburn did. Time will tell.


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LSU Fan
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
15172 posts

re: Smart and Cam
And O will still own Gus.


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arcalades
USA Fan
USA
Member since Feb 2014
6856 posts

re: Smart and Cam
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Chizik was never accused of anything because he wasn't stupid enough to talk about shite like that over the phone and get recorded.


that's an assumption and probably wrong. Chizik just didn't do it at a time when the feds were investigating.


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arcalades
USA Fan
USA
Member since Feb 2014
6856 posts

re: Smart and Cam
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Chizik might've sucked, but he wasn't a retard like your head coach.
that's a head scratcher. He kind of is retarded. Have you listened to him. He and Leslie are proof clueless people can win college championships.


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wareaglepete
Auburn Fan
Sugar Bear
Member since Dec 2012
2351 posts

re: Smart and Cam
Cam didn't do anything and Auburn didn't do anything. And you cannot prove we did, no matter how much you want to believe it. That is where the similarity is, but don't go throwing Auburn under the bus because you want to seem cool and impartial.

It's like they say, keep it down home cuz.


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thelawnwranglers
LSU Fan
Oakland, NJ
Member since Sep 2007
23375 posts

re: Smart and Cam
On going investigation baw


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