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Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:28 am
Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:28 am
So who does the lack of spring practice / possibly even early fall practice impact the most?
I think Florida is in pretty good shape as they are returning the same team as last year for the most part, aren't they? Shouldn't be too much change needed there?
UGA is in a pretty bad spot, in my opinion, as we were supposedly installing some significant changes on the offensive side which would benefit greatly from a spring to sharpen up....plus bringing in a new QB.
Bama and LSU ought to be OK, right....even with new QBs the system will probably be what it has been, no?
UT cam on strong late last season....a spring would've helped that effort, no? UT may be alright though given how improved they were late.
What about the rest of the conference? Missing spring gonna be mildly harmful or devastating? I think it hurts UGA, for what its worth....
I think Florida is in pretty good shape as they are returning the same team as last year for the most part, aren't they? Shouldn't be too much change needed there?
UGA is in a pretty bad spot, in my opinion, as we were supposedly installing some significant changes on the offensive side which would benefit greatly from a spring to sharpen up....plus bringing in a new QB.
Bama and LSU ought to be OK, right....even with new QBs the system will probably be what it has been, no?
UT cam on strong late last season....a spring would've helped that effort, no? UT may be alright though given how improved they were late.
What about the rest of the conference? Missing spring gonna be mildly harmful or devastating? I think it hurts UGA, for what its worth....
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:31 am to Gtmodawg
I’d say LSU. Offense takes longer to gel and get in sync than defense, and they are fielding something like 8 new starters including QB on that side of the ball.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:35 am to SD Tider
We'll be fine. We're returning enough of our playmakers and Brennan isn't new to LSU. He knows the system.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:38 am to Gtmodawg
The ones that can least afford to miss Spring practice, are the schools with new coaches and new systems.
Arkansas, State, and Ole Miss are hosed by missing Spring football because there was so much work to do. Particularly at Arkansas where not just installing the new systems but changing the toxic culture left by Chad Morris was desperately needed.
Arkansas, State, and Ole Miss are hosed by missing Spring football because there was so much work to do. Particularly at Arkansas where not just installing the new systems but changing the toxic culture left by Chad Morris was desperately needed.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:42 am to Gtmodawg
I'd say anybody breaking in a new QB/OC would suffer some.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:43 am to Gtmodawg
LSU, Georgia and Auburn
Georgia is replacing their starting tackles QB and RB. But their biggest obstacle is gonna be a brand new QB with no time and a new system.
LSU is replacing 13 starters (5 or 6 first rounders) and a New DC. Also switching from a 3-4 to a 4-3. Luckily the backups have gotten some great reps (thanks A&M) and there’s stupid talent.
Auburn simply because they lose their entire Oline also Davidson and Brown.
I think the teams that will be the least effected is Florida and Bama.
I may put a little money down on the Gators winning the SEC.
Georgia is replacing their starting tackles QB and RB. But their biggest obstacle is gonna be a brand new QB with no time and a new system.
LSU is replacing 13 starters (5 or 6 first rounders) and a New DC. Also switching from a 3-4 to a 4-3. Luckily the backups have gotten some great reps (thanks A&M) and there’s stupid talent.
Auburn simply because they lose their entire Oline also Davidson and Brown.
I think the teams that will be the least effected is Florida and Bama.
I may put a little money down on the Gators winning the SEC.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:44 am to Gtmodawg
I’m more concerned about LSU defense missing the first spring under Pelini than our offense.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:51 am to Gtmodawg
It’s likely going to be a tough season for Mississippi State. The drama that happened with a new coach that players haven’t been able to interact with in person can’t be healthy.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:00 am to PlateJohnsonIII
Teams with a new coach will have a much steeper hill to climb, especially ones installing a completely new system and trying to change a culture completely like that at Mississippi State....the upside is that there ain't a lot of room for getting worse and, with some luck and an upset or two, leach will get a couple of seasons as byes in Starkeville.
Florida was right there last season anyway. UT came on late. UGA had to rethink the offense...missing spring impacts us more than UT and UF, in my opinion.
Florida was right there last season anyway. UT came on late. UGA had to rethink the offense...missing spring impacts us more than UT and UF, in my opinion.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:05 am to Gtmodawg
Teams with new QB's, new coordinators, and/or high numbers of starters leaving will be hurt the most. Those things are already challenging to a team, but will be especially difficult without a spring practice. For those teams dealing with all three of those difficulties (LSU) it could be a very tough year.
On the flip side, teams returning a lot of experience, especially at QB will have an even larger advantage than normal.
On the flip side, teams returning a lot of experience, especially at QB will have an even larger advantage than normal.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:44 am to Gtmodawg
Kentucky returns the large majority of the starters. However, I think it will stunt our growth a bit more than some of the others though because we tend to develop our guys a bit more. I know that may ruffle some feathers but it is the truth.
Stoops has brought this program to a place of respectability by getting many recruits that are slightly under the radar and feel slighted or looked over. These guys tend to be very hungry and just flat out bust their tail in the off-season. See Benny Snell. See Josh Allen. See Calvin Taylor. This list goes on and on.
Sprinkle in some top tier talent this year. Guys like Kelvin Joseph who has been itching to get back on the field.
We will be fine due to our experience returning. But because we tend to develop more than many others, we will be affected more in that area than others.
In terms of coaching, we return almost everyone, again.
Stoops has brought this program to a place of respectability by getting many recruits that are slightly under the radar and feel slighted or looked over. These guys tend to be very hungry and just flat out bust their tail in the off-season. See Benny Snell. See Josh Allen. See Calvin Taylor. This list goes on and on.
Sprinkle in some top tier talent this year. Guys like Kelvin Joseph who has been itching to get back on the field.
We will be fine due to our experience returning. But because we tend to develop more than many others, we will be affected more in that area than others.
In terms of coaching, we return almost everyone, again.
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 10:46 am
Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:47 am to BlueBlood2020
Mizzou is funded.
New QB.
NEW OFFENSIVE MINDED HC IN DRINKWITZ.
It will hurt us pretty bad.
New QB.
NEW OFFENSIVE MINDED HC IN DRINKWITZ.
It will hurt us pretty bad.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:47 am to Gtmodawg
Georgia and Mississippi State feel like the glaring ones. Brand new, totally different offenses with brand new grad transfer QBs.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:57 am to BlueBlood2020
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Kentucky returns the large majority of the starters. However, I think it will stunt our growth a bit more than some of the others though because we tend to develop our guys a bit more. I know that may ruffle some feathers but it is the truth. Stoops has brought this program to a place of respectability by getting many recruits that are slightly under the radar and feel slighted or looked over. These guys tend to be very hungry and just flat out bust their tail in the off-season. See Benny Snell. See Josh Allen. See Calvin Taylor. This list goes on and on. Sprinkle in some top tier talent this year. Guys like Kelvin Joseph who has been itching to get back on the field. We will be fine due to our experience returning. But because we tend to develop more than many others, we will be affected more in that area than others. In terms of coaching, we return almost everyone, again.
Uk is heading in the right direction and Stoops does a fantastic job at player development. Perfect fit at UK. Meaning I hate the bastard LOL....UK should be in good shape.....
Posted on 4/13/20 at 11:05 am to SummerOfGeorge
It's an interesting topic. The truth is, no one knows. No program really knows how losing spring ball will impact the fall because we've never been in this situation.
IMO, the considerations listed in order of most concern would be:
1) New Head Coach (biggest intangible IMO)
2) New QB on campus (whether true fresh or transfer)
3) Graduation/NFL/Transfer losses at other positions
4) New scheme implementation
5) New Coordinator (assuming he isn't changing the scheme)
But TBH, I'm not sure any coach is looking at cancellation of Spring ball as a competitive advantage. Even coaches who aren't experiencing a lot of the 5 points above are probably uneasy -- they want to get their guys reps and conditioning.
IMO, the considerations listed in order of most concern would be:
1) New Head Coach (biggest intangible IMO)
2) New QB on campus (whether true fresh or transfer)
3) Graduation/NFL/Transfer losses at other positions
4) New scheme implementation
5) New Coordinator (assuming he isn't changing the scheme)
But TBH, I'm not sure any coach is looking at cancellation of Spring ball as a competitive advantage. Even coaches who aren't experiencing a lot of the 5 points above are probably uneasy -- they want to get their guys reps and conditioning.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:00 pm to ibldprplgld
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We'll be fine. We're returning enough of our playmakers and Brennan isn't new to LSU. He knows the system.
I think it is more about getting reps and knocking off rust to get timing and rhythm down.
The more complex the offense or defense the shakier it may be from the on set no matter the level of experience.
The tempo and the simplified offensive playbooks that depend largely on the sidelines calling in plays and adjustments with simple pre-snap reads will likely be the most effective early in getting Ds caught out of position. But, they are subject to rhythm issues as well... maybe even more so.
That said, I think Auburn stands to do well early on offense in terms of creating defensive issues. UGA and Alabama (maybe LSU if they can stand looking like a step back to Les Miles football for a few weeks) probably have the parts to simplify the offense and move back to a more power/pro style of football with some success due to available talent and size advantages.
All schools with new coaches and new systems likely struggle the most. Kiffin has proven he can adapt playcalling to talent and situation at hand, so I think he manages the best of the new guys. In turn, Leach suffers the most as the change is much more drastic.
Same with defenses. The more complex the more reps the team needs. This is where a Saban type of defense is most vulnerable. Very glad so many young guys got so many reps last year, but 8-9 mos between practices is a lot of time for atrophy.
I really think strength and conditioning become a really big factor early on as well. I'm hoping Saban's move toward innovative, more technology driven S&C pays dividends to max gains in such a short time, while reducing risk of injuries.
The first month will look rough for all. But, who cares. I just want to see some football.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 7:03 pm to Gtmodawg
I just rewatched our Florida game and theyre losing reese II Henderson zuniga greenard on D & Perine jefferson swain and cleveland on O. That’s a lot of production on both sides
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 4/13/20 at 7:25 pm to Leto II
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I'd say anybody breaking in a new QB/OC would suffer some.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 7:40 pm to Gtmodawg
Since there will not be football until 2021, it is not going to be that bad of an impact.
By the Fall of 2021, everybody will be in the same boat.
By the Fall of 2021, everybody will be in the same boat.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 10:05 pm to SD Tider
LSU is the least impacted. Ready to roll
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