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Posted on 6/12/14 at 2:38 am
Posted by Bama74
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 2:38 am
As a DirectV customer I really hope the SECN deal is done before the start of football season. But I see on ESPN’s schedule that the games listed on the SECN are also available on WATCHESPN. So for the guys like me that would like to keep the NFL package, it looks like you will also be able to stream the SECN games. Please advise if I am wrong.
Posted by CNB
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 3:36 am to
It's based off your ISP. If you can usually watch stuff on Watch ESPN you might be able to. However if you live in the area, it will probably be subject to blackout.
Posted by Bama74
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429 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 3:52 am to
Yes I do get wespn but that black out thing may be where they get me.
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 3:58 am to
There are ways around that.
Posted by greenbastard
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 4:00 am to
What you're thinking of is ESPN3. ESPN3 is usually used for broadcasts that aren't on a ESPN TV network or are not available due to regional coverage. With SECN being a nationwide network, you're shite out of luck. Better start finding bars that have AT&T or Dish.
Posted by Bama74
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 4:05 am to
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What you're thinking of is ESPN3


No I am thinking of Watch ESPN, and I know it is basically the same as ESPN3 except I can’t watch 3 on my IPad. Look at the first 2 games on your Schedule.
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Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 6:30 am to
quote:

As a DirectV customer I really hope the SECN deal is done before the start of football season. But I see on ESPN’s schedule that the games listed on the SECN are also available on WATCHESPN. So for the guys like me that would like to keep the NFL package, it looks like you will also be able to stream the SECN games. Please advise if I am wrong.


Only if your carrier carriers the SEC Network and you can sign-in to ESPN3 through your carrier.

Cool thing is, Dish Network, even though the agreement does not kick-in until August, is already allowing us to log-in through ESPN3. It really paid off during college baseball season. It was great seeing previously blacked-out games on my mobile device while on the golf course. And that's just one example.

ETA: WatchESPN and ESPN3 redirect to the same page. The only difference is the branding, WatchESPN is the new brand for ESPN's online broadcasts in anticipation of ESPN3 eventually being used in the future for live streaming feeds on your TV set once the technology is more readily available ... which it is already with blue tooth and wifi TVs coming more into play, but wasn't at the time they rebranded with WatchESPN in 20011.

Remember, the channel was originally marketed as the home of the FCS, the mid majors and lesser sports broadcasts like soccer, some of the womens' sports, etc. But they are full blown into simulcasting now as well as original programming, but that will not affect SEC Network inventory. What is on the network will also be streamed.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 6:36 am
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15108 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 6:31 am to
I would bet my house that ESPN won't have the SECN games available for live streaming on ESPN3 or WATCHESPN. If they are trying to force the major providers to carry the SECN by showing good games on it, why would they make them available for customers of non-SECN providers?
Posted by TaxmanMSU
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 6:46 am to
Man, y'all are dumb.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 6:48 am to
You can go ahead and mark down no games that are on SECnetwork will be on watch espn

If they did that, what's the use in charging extra for the channel?

Switch to Dish or ATT and be happy. I just added Dish to my store locations just for SEC network. I switched from Cox. I've had Dish at home, so I ended up getting a sweet deal with credit for 3 referrals and $30 off my home bill for the next 10 months.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 6:54 am to
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Man, y'all are dumb.


Yes they are. Wonder what is so difficult for some of them to understand?

Let's try this again.

If your carrier does not carry, is not subscribed to, the SEC Network, you will not be able to log-in and watch SEC Network content/inventory, on ESPN3/WatchESPN. Doesn't matter how hard you try, or whatever trick you might think would work, you will be blocked from viewing content that is SECN specific.

WatchESPN/ESPN3 is now tied directly into your carrier just like HBOGO, DISH Mobile, etc., and it forces you to log-into your carrier's servers, through their password system, in order to access premium content, plain and simple.

I do not know if it can be expressed in a simpler fashion than that quite honestly.

Yes, the SEC Network will stream live on WatchESPN/ESPN3 but no, you will not be able to actually view those live streaming videos unless you can log-in to the service through your carrier - which means your carrier will have to have signed the deal with ESPN/SECN in order for you to be able to watch online.

The links to the games will be there, but unless DirecTV has signed the deal or already merged with AT&T Universe by the start of the season, you will be denied access to the SECN through ESPN3/WatchESPN.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 7:00 am
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:05 am to
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Switch to Dish or ATT and be happy. I just added Dish to my store locations just for SEC network. I switched from Cox. I've had Dish at home, so I ended up getting a sweet deal with credit for 3 referrals and $30 off my home bill for the next 10 months.


Exactly. And little known fact.

DISH Network has a sweet deal where if you own businesses that broadcast TV, as I do as well, you can run your home and all your businesses through one account and you're basically paying for satellite receivers at all locations rather than having to pay separate service fees and main DVR fees at each location. For me, it saved me about $400.00 a month by merging all my accounts into my corporate account plus it allowed me to put service in my guest house and my Tiki Bar on my home property.

In our case my Company now pays for my home TVs at all locations on the property. DISH is just the bomb IMHO.

I thought about installing it at the Cockaboose as well but we already have USC Cable down there, which includes closed circuit broadcasts of all the games in real time and without delays, so we decided to keep that service at the Cockaboose because we have guests who might not be able to get tickets but they can still watch the games real time, without delays, in or on top of the Cockaboose and hear the cheers real time inside the stadium. Otherwise I would have installed DISH down there as well.

DISH is simply too good to pass-up in most cases.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 7:06 am
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96003 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:10 am to
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You can go ahead and mark down no games that are on SECnetwork will be on watch espn

If they did that, what's the use in charging extra for the channel?


actually they 100% will be on watchespn. But only to those who have a cable provider that carries the sec network. Jesus this question has been answered so many times.
This post was edited on 6/12/14 at 7:12 am
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:13 am to
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It's based off your ISP. If you can usually watch stuff on Watch ESPN you might be able to. However if you live in the area, it will probably be subject to blackout.


The ISP thing only comes into play if your are streaming through a packaged carrier that also provides your bandwidth and is also subscribed to the SEC Network. Now, that does raise the question about cable subscribers who may have their Internet and phone through a specific carrier, but not their TV ... but as I understand it if you are not subscribed, with the proper package (in the case of DISH it would be the Top 250 with the Sports Package in order to view the SECN), then you would still be blocked regardless of your ISP being generated through a subscribed carrier.

I guess that would apply more to AT&T and Comcast than anything else ... and probably Verizon. Sat dish providers, like DirecTV and DISH are a different story.

With that said, and this should be clear, if you have your mobile phone service through Verizon but your cable is not, then you will not be able to view it through Verizon even if Verizon cable subscribes to the SECN because Verizon mobile has already stated they will not be subscribing to the SECN as a separate entity.

A lot of the issue here is due to bandwidth usage. Right now most bandwidth providers are involved in a suit against youtube, ESPN, HBO Go, etc., because those companies offering streaming video, Roku, HULU, et al., are burning bandwidth provider inventory for free. They charge for their programming but suffer no losses in terms of bandwidth. I can see their point.
Posted by reggierayreb
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:20 am to
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However if you live in the area, it will probably be subject to blackout.



I'm expecting a whole lot of this at first... The first weekend I wouldn't be surprised if the aTm game is blacked out from TX all the way over to the Atlantic and even up into Ohio.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:36 am to
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I'm expecting a whole lot of this at first... The first weekend I wouldn't be surprised if the aTm game is blacked out from TX all the way over to the Atlantic and even up into Ohio.


There will be no blacked-out games on the SECN per se. Simply put, you are either subscribed or you are not.

Blackout games apply to local games, usually which are not soldout, which are also being broadcast on a cable channel of one sort or the other or either are being overlapped by a deemed "more important game" in your area.

Blacked-out rarely happens anymore in football. When it did it was because games were not sold-out usually.

The SECN is the antithesis to "black-out" because they are going to be inventory starved in the beginning, meaning they'll broadcast anything and everything not picked up for major network telecast. As to whether or not you are subscribed, through your cable provider, and thus able to actually view said games being broadcast on the SECN from anywhere in the country ... that is another story and entirely up to whether or not your cable provider subscribes to the SECN and whether or not you have the package that allows you to view it if you are subscribed.

But the term "black-out" is a non-sequitur when it comes to the SECN unless you want to use it to refer to not having access because your cable subscriber has not signed the deal with ESPN/SECN or because you chose not to spend the extra $7.99 a month buying the premium sports package offered by your cable provider who has actually signed the deal with ESPN/SECN.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 7:44 am to
You can only watch what you pay for with your cable company on Watch ESPN. So no this wouldn't work.

For example, If I didn't pay for ESPNU, they block me from being able to watch it on Watch ESPN.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:27 am to
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For example, If I didn't pay for ESPNU, they block me from being able to watch it on Watch ESPN.


That's more to do with the specific sports package you are not paying for rather than a ESPNU specific subscription.

For instance, on DISH, if you had America's Top 250 package, which includes ESPNU, you would be able to access everything on ESPN3/WatchESPN. America's Top 120 would not afford you the same opportunity, BUT, America's Top 120+ would because it includes the entire ESPN Sports Package. I'm not sure if America's Top 200 includes the ESPN Sports Package or not.

All providers offer similar bundled packages. The key is finding-out which package will include the SEC Network deal.

I seriously doubt DirecTV is going to have the SECN in time for this season, especially with the AT&T merger talks underway. You just do not pick-up additional costs during merger talks. It's just not done, especially when AT&T has already done the deal with ESPN/SECN and it would cost them more if they had to absorb a separate contract signed by DireTV. It ain't gonna happen because Congress is going to drag their feet approving this deal in the first place.
Posted by Bama74
MS Gulfcoast
Member since Dec 2012
429 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 8:42 am to
scrooster:

Ok so you seem to know a lot about this deal. Back to my original question. If I continue to use my friend's ATTUverse login as I did for the baseball regionals. I should be able to stream the SECN games right?
Posted by Wanderin Reb
Gallifrey
Member since Jun 2013
10738 posts
Posted on 6/12/14 at 9:50 am to
Yes.
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