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SEC teams that cannot be removed.

Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:10 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:10 pm
Vanderbilt. Having a private school in a conference shields intra-conference correspondence from FOIA requests.

In the ACC you have 4 (Wake Forest, Boston College, Miami and Duke).

In the Big Ten you have 1 (Northwestern)

In the PAC 12 you have 2 (USC, Stanford)

In the Big 12 you have 2 (Baylor, TCU)
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 8:18 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71111 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:10 pm to
Arkansas. We know everyone loves us.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:13 pm to
Purdue isn't private.

Not that it takes away from your point though, it's a cool concept and makes a lot of sense.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 8:18 pm
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:15 pm to
Kentucky misses the cut again
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54613 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

n the Big Ten you have 2 (Purdue and Northwestern)


Purdue is public
Posted by BreezyDawg
Trembling Earth
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

Arkansas. We know everyone loves us


Ehhh this is questionable
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79944 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:19 pm to
That's why Rice, SMU, and TCU were pissed when Baylor made the original Big 12 cut but Houston wasn't.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:21 pm to
Are you sure that FOIA applies to states and state institutions? I'm not sure that's right...
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54613 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:24 pm to
Yes, caused an uproar when UKAA when from 501 3 c to actually being part of the university. BCG, the gift that kept on giving, sorta like the Clap.

Anyway, now UKAA is 100% UK the first think they did was go public with the donor list.
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:27 pm to
Well a quick google says no - FOIA only applies to the actual Federal level of the USG. States will have their own information availability laws and some aspects of what universities do may fall under FOIA requests of the Dept of Education but I'm not sure that federal FOIA applies in the sense that we're thinking. State versions maybe. But hey, I'm not a lawyer.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 8:28 pm
Posted by Zeroforwinger
Member since Jan 2015
1432 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:45 pm to
Don't do a quick google search for a legal issue. Every state has their own FOIA. Here's Alabama

LINK
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
7956 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:47 pm to
That isn’t right at all dude. Where did you come up with this nonsense
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:48 pm to
I thought we were talking federal FOIA which is what just about everyone thinks of when you say FOIA because you know, the federal FOIA is actually called FOIA and the state ones generally aren't...and they'll vary in composition by state.

How would adding a private school protect a conference from a state level FOIA equivalent request to the point that it's a wise financial decision? The juice doesn't seem like it's worth the squeeze considering that most important information in situations we're thinking of could simply be subpoenaed, even from a private school/org.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 8:54 pm
Posted by Zeroforwinger
Member since Jan 2015
1432 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:53 pm to
I think most people look at FOIA laws from an individual state. That's where the majority of law and reporting is practiced
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
22982 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:55 pm to
Ok, well we'll just disagree then.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 8:58 pm to
If we're being honest, no founding member can be removed. We are still the SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE and loyalty to our brethren and sistern in arms (it's us against the world not just in football but in terms of just a southea firn mindset).

It would also do irreparable harm to remove a founder -- more than any other sport CFB relies on region, pride of place, and a sense that our teams are a large part of our identity but it holds for our conference in general. (I could go on with that point but y'all get it).

If we were ever forced to shrink it should be expansion I & II teams being debated. Not because they don't belong but because it's hard to erase 100 plus years.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 9:00 pm
Posted by CrimsonShadow
Montgomery
Member since Nov 2015
1278 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 9:00 pm to
This is the correct response.
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
7956 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 9:04 pm to
Here you go dude

Kneeland v. NCAA et al
Posted by TrueReb13
Member since Feb 2015
1623 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 9:11 pm to
I thought the list included
Alabama, Auburn, LSU, MSU, Ole Miss, Georgia, Tennessee, Florida, Kentucky, and South Carolina?
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8525 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

no founding member can be removed.

Which conference bylaw says that?
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