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SEC Officiating - Bias

Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:03 am
Posted by LSUStjames
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:03 am
A different view point. Do I think Bama is getting biased officiating right now? Yes I do, but I don't think its necessarily a Bama bias. The SEC is notorious for protecting their top teams to ensure one of us gets into the CFP and the BCS before that. During 2000-2006, it was either Auburn or LSU getting the bias calls. Remember the Webster int against Bama or Grand Theft Auburn in 2006? UF also has been the darling team a couple years getting the calls when they were making a run. Bama has just been the top team for many years in a row so the SEC Bias has the perception of a Bama bias.


There is just too much financial impact for the SEC to miss out. We know if we trot out a couple of the top SEC teams in any given year, they will beat almost anyone out there as the level of talent / competition in the SEC is just higher, so they try to keep them clean to make sure one of them gets in there.

ETA: This year especially its in the SEC's best interest for BAMA win out, its the only chance the SEC has of getting a second team in and that means more money for the conference.
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 9:06 am
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:04 am to
Duck
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26950 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:05 am to
When the hell are we going to get David Smith in a game?
Posted by BIGJLAW
Member since Mar 2013
8417 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:05 am to
Your team held on every play against Bama and not a flag. The OL looked like they were performing CPR on a choke victim and still nothing. Move on it’s only a conspiracy to the weak minded.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22173 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:06 am to
So we can expect no bias in the SECC or bias toward UGA?
Posted by Hussss
Living the Dream
Member since Oct 2016
6740 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:08 am to
Disagree completely

It’s all about gambling. Nothing else.

It happens in ALL SEC games.
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 9:09 am
Posted by LSUStjames
Member since Dec 2005
3473 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:08 am to
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Your team held on every play against Bama and not a flag. The OL looked like they were performing CPR on a choke victim and still nothing. Move on it’s only a conspiracy to the weak minded.


It's more subtle than that. Its not about calling everything in sight or not calling. Its about affecting the momentum of the game. Its typically what's not called as those are easier to explain away, than what is called. Not calling holding calls against LSU when LSU's offense can't even get a first down is not affecting the momentum of a game. Calling State's TD back or not calling the fumble on the first series are both momentum affecting.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:09 am to
Here is the truth. Bad calls happen to every team, even Bama. In fact the stats say the refs are harder on Bama and easier on their opponents, every year. You guys pick and choose and harp on every break that falls Bama's way and ignore the ones that don't go their way. Both LSU and State got away with many defensive holds and pi's during the course of the game, for example. You guys just pick and choose the evidence instead of looking at the evidence as a whole and jump to the conclusion that makes you feel better about losing. It is not only ignorant, it is pathetic. In short, the refs are not the biased ones, we the fans are.
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 9:11 am
Posted by LSUStjames
Member since Dec 2005
3473 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:10 am to
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So we can expect no bias in the SECC or bias toward UGA?


If UGA was odds on fav to make the CFP, they would be getting the bias. I've noticed it for years, and its not just Bama, its been all the top teams.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:11 am to
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Calling State's TD back
If he didn't put his hands on the back of the DB, they would have counted the TD.

And if the coach was closer than 25 yards from the ref, they would have heard him calling for timeout.
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 9:13 am
Posted by BIGJLAW
Member since Mar 2013
8417 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:11 am to
So what you are saying is that only call a penalty if it’s against someone else, wow. You have fallen.
Posted by Dawgy49
North Georgia
Member since Sep 2015
4851 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:12 am to
You are correct, bad calls happen. So do injuries. Let there be no excuses either way.
Posted by LSUStjames
Member since Dec 2005
3473 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:12 am to
quote:

Here is the truth. Bad calls happen to every team, even Bama. In fact the stats say the refs are harder on Bama and easier on their opponents, every year. You guys pick and choose and harp on every break that falls Bama's way and ignore the ones that don't go their way. Both LSU and State got away with many defensive holds and pi's during the course of the game, for example. You guys just pick and choose the evidence instead of looking at the evidence as a whole and jump to the conclusion that makes you feel better about losing. It is not only ignorant, it is pathetic. In short, the refs are not the biased ones, we the fans are.


You are right, there are bad calls in games and that go both ways, but you have to look at which ones change the momentum of a game. Yes Bama gets a lot of ticky tack calls sometimes but they rarely affect momentum or force Bama into a punt or take points off the board. It has to appear to be even right?

Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22173 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:13 am to
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If UGA was odds on fav to make the CFP, they would be getting the bias. I've noticed it for years, and its not just Bama, its been all the top teams.


If your theory is correct and UGA has one loss and Bama zero in the SECC, then the refs should be biased to UGA. A UGA win means both likely make the CFP.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:13 am to
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If UGA was odds on fav to make the CFP, they would be getting the bias. I've noticed it for years, and its not just Bama, its been all the top teams.


I have noticed over the years that fans tell themselves this to make themselves feel better about losing. It is as old as sports itself.
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 9:14 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26950 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:14 am to
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Calling State's TD back
If he didn't put his hands on the back of the DB, they would have counted the TD.


And then throw his hands up as if he's guilty as frick.

And as far as Gary Danielson yapping and whining...remember he's the one who suggested that Tennessee should have gotten a re-kick when Cody took his helmet off after blocking the FG in 2009. So don't be swayed by Gary Danielson going into hysterics.
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 9:16 am
Posted by LSUStjames
Member since Dec 2005
3473 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:14 am to
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So what you are saying is that only call a penalty if it’s against someone else, wow. You have fallen.


reading comprehension? I'm saying Bama is benefitting only because Bama is the best. If UGA or LSU were the best right now, they would be benefitting.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21220 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:16 am to
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SEC Officiating - Bias

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LSU Fan

Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:16 am to
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I'm saying Bama is benefitting only because Bama is the best. If UGA or LSU were the best right now, they would be benefitting.

I don't agree with that, either.
Posted by LSUStjames
Member since Dec 2005
3473 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:16 am to
quote:

I have noticed over the years that fans tell themselves this to make themselves feel better about losing. It is as old as sports itself.


Dude I'm an LSU fan, and noticed when it was LSU getting the calls. Its not about feeling better, it's about intellectual honesty.

Sadly most will never admit to themselves what they saw as in a way it would ruin the sport we are so passionate about. We all want to believe its fair and bad calls go both ways and it evens out.
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