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re: SEC Officials are corrupt
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:15 pm to CleverUserName
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:15 pm to CleverUserName
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#92 on defense is being held. Spot of the ball wouldn’t have even mattered then.
Good point, but they didn't call a holding penalty on either team all night.
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Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:15 pm to ChexMix
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SEC Officials are corrupt
Water is wet.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:16 pm to Irons Puppet
Yep. I was reading the rule wrong.
I found this from the NCAA "rulings" page to confirm:
"I. A10, after receiving the snap in his own end zone, is downed with the ball resting on his goal line, its forward point being in the field of play. RULING: Safety. A part of the dead ball is on the ball carrier’s goal line."
I found this from the NCAA "rulings" page to confirm:
"I. A10, after receiving the snap in his own end zone, is downed with the ball resting on his goal line, its forward point being in the field of play. RULING: Safety. A part of the dead ball is on the ball carrier’s goal line."
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:19 pm to MikeAV8s
"What I will complain about is the damned targeting rule. McClain had two options on that play, do what he did, or let the guy score. The rule needs work."
I think everyone agrees with this. I also think over time the rule will change. Something will be invented or developed that will allow the game to return to its former self
I think everyone agrees with this. I also think over time the rule will change. Something will be invented or developed that will allow the game to return to its former self
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:20 pm to MikeAV8s
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I thought it was close, but I’m not gonna complain about it. Penn state got hosed twice. What I will complain about is the damned targeting rule. McClain had two options on that play, do what he did, or let the guy score. The rule needs work.
The only play were PSU was hosed was the three down issue. But you have to blame Franklin for not calling timeout and asking the Refs to rule on that. It was third and 11 and he spent most of the time yelling at the Official.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:24 pm to Irons Puppet
No, it definitely looks like the REC refs hosed Auburn....AGAIN.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:24 pm to ChexMix
I think it’s a safety (down before ball completely out), but it was really close.
I don’t have a problem with calls like this that are super close and really could have gone either way
Those goal line calls with all those bodies can be tough, even when looking in replay. I’ve got a perfect angle here in your gif and I’m having to watch it 5+ times to make a determination…in a game they don’t always get the perfect angle and 15+ minutes to dissect the replay
I don’t have a problem with calls like this that are super close and really could have gone either way
Those goal line calls with all those bodies can be tough, even when looking in replay. I’ve got a perfect angle here in your gif and I’m having to watch it 5+ times to make a determination…in a game they don’t always get the perfect angle and 15+ minutes to dissect the replay
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:25 pm to AA7
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:28 pm to JPLSU1981
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I think it’s a safety (down before ball completely out), but it was really close
It was close when he fully extended. When his leg is down the nose of the ball is barely even across.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:33 pm to AA7
Maybe the thinking was it’s possible the ball got completely out before this gif?…I don’t think it did, but there’s really no way to see for sure because the ball is hidden from view for a bit. So maybe they just had to defer to call on field?
Not saying I agree with that thinking, just as possibility why they let the call on field stand
Not saying I agree with that thinking, just as possibility why they let the call on field stand
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:35 pm to BigBro
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I agree that this is the rule.. but I don’t understand the rule at all.
Yeah, it's sort of confusing to think about until you turn it around the other way.
Imagine a ball carrier extending the ball to cross the opponent's goal line, and it's a touchdown. Because the tip of the ball crosses the plane, it's considered to be in the end zone.
Coming out the other way, imagine a ball carrier extending the ball to cross his own goal line, and it's a safety. Because the (back) tip of the ball still crosses the plane, it's also considered to be in the end zone.
When the entire ball comes out, it's no longer crossing the plane (on either end of the field).
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:37 pm to ChexMix
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One things for sure, the fricking idiots are getting exposed right now
That's rich. The only idiot in this thread is the dumbass OP complaining about Auburn getting screwed by the refs, who actually forced Penn State to have to punt on 3rd down.
Seriously...that shite actually happened, and you're complaining about this play?
What a fricking idiot.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:37 pm to nicholastiger
quote:getting it wrong WITH REPLAY is even more corrupt. They see the truth and create their own reality and force feed it to the rest of us.
Not corrupt like they were back before replay
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:40 pm to AA7
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I wonder if officials had this view during the game. I was flipping channels and drinking.
They did but IIRC PSU snapped the next play pretty quick.
No timeout being called by Harsin? He should have done that.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:41 pm to ChexMix
Sorry you used all your ref favors in 2020?
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:49 pm to ChexMix
not even a top 3 worst calls of the weekend by the SEC refs.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:51 pm to BamaGradinTn
One was a game changing non call and one wasn’t, so…
Posted on 9/20/21 at 1:52 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Seriously...that shite actually happened, and you're complaining about this play?
So a loss of down on what would have been 3rd and 11 is worse than 2 points and turning the ball over?
Posted on 9/20/21 at 2:17 pm to lsupride87
Edit: Combined two posts into one and removed information that had already been discussed.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 9/20/21 at 2:21 pm to BigBro
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I get what you are saying, but I don’t agree with it being consistent.
Thinking of it in terms of the neutral zone (width of the ball) and it makes sense. HS and NCAA define two lines of scrimmage (front and back edge of the ball) which defines the neutral zone. A play can't start with either line of scrimmage being in the enzone (or put another way any part of the neutral zone being in the endzone).
That means going into the endzone you only have to have a small part of the ball reach the endzone to be a TD. It also means going out of your own endzone, the entire ball has to be out of the endzone.
Another way to look at it. On a turnover on downs, the neutral zone does not move. They do not move the ball back one ball's length so that the front of the ball remains constant. Instead, the front and back lines of scrimmage reverse.
Now let's say on fourth down the front of the ball clears the endzone but the back of the ball does not. If that is not a safety, then the ball turns over on downs and it would automatically become a touchdown.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 2:44 pm
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