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turnpiketiger
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re: SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
Arkansas & SC aren’t bad but I can do without the Big12 schools. A 10 team round-robin league would’ve been cool. The fan bases and teams would know each other all so well. Traditions and history wise.


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Woodreaux
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re: SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
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Link?



LINK


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I-59 Tiger
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re: SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
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LSU has always been a strange team in the SEC. New Orleans has their jersey accents and all that. Don’t get me wrong, I like LSU being in the league, but before Atlanta became what it was, you guys were a strange bird in the SEC.



And Auburn provides the SEC with "Hooterville" from Green Acres.


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blueridgeTiger
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re: SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
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LSU has always been a strange team in the SEC.


Don't know why you single out LSU - Tennessee and Georgia didn't play each other between 1937 and 1968. Even more surprising is that Auburn and Alabama didn't play each other between 1907 and 1948.


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MillerLiteTime
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Member since Aug 2018
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re: SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
Arkansas, SC, and aTm were no brainers to add. Sure everyone wishes we could have picked up a North Carolina school instead of Mizzou, but it wasn't going to happen. We tried. So the only way to get aTm was to bring Mizzou along with them to have an even 14 teams. And aTm is the most financially rewarding conference addition since the B10 added Penn State.

If we had sat on the sidelines in the early 90's while other conferences expanded, the Big Ten would have eventually started distributing vastly more money than the SEC. The ACC would have added South Carolina. The Big 12 would have still formed but with more strength with Arkansas coming along. In this alternate universe, the SEC would have been boxed in with nowhere to expand once we realized our revenue was falling behind. And as others started paying more money and our members felt left behind, some may have looked elsewhere. It's not crazy to think Kentucky might have bolted to the B10 with a much higher payout and better basketball culture. If Kentucky bolted and the conference became even weaker with only 9 teams, LSU might have been tempted by the security of a strong Big 12 with access to Texas recruiting. We take for granted that none of the SEC teams left during all this realignment. But that is because of our financial strength and stability that came from adding Arkansas and SC in order to play an SEC title game.


southernboisb
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re: SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
Were you locked in port-a-potties then as well?


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Scoob
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re: SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
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Were you actually old enough to see that league and remember it?

I am, and to be honest, the schedule left something to be desired for LSU back then.

We'd play Bama, the Mississippi schools, Florida, Kentucky and Vandy. Somehow we missed the entire career of Hershel Walker and Bo Jackson, despite being in a 10 team conference with them.

The first expansion was great, as it addressed a lot of the scheduling. We lost the annual games with Kentucky and Vandy, but added Auburn (and Arkansas), and it locked in rotational games with UGA and Tennessee... so that was a net gain for LSU.

A&M and Missouri, not quite as high on that. LSU adding A&M is nice, that could be a nice rivalry game; but that could also have just been a frequent nonconference matchup and done well. And no offense to Mizzou, but I don't think anyone necessarily looks forward to playing them.


southernboisb
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OmegaMan
I just think we need to expand to a 10 game SEC schedule.


From UGA/UF/UK/USC:






10 games: SEC conf.
1 game: in-state ACC rival
1 game: free to choose opponent



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southernboisb
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re: SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
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mouse_cop
SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.

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I’d prefer to go back to the old SEC where Auburn played UT, FL, GA, Bama every year. Plus add GT as non-conference.



Simple solution, move Auburn to the East, keep Bama as cross-division rival. Why has no one thought of this before?


Simple answer because it HAS been thought of & rejected: Ala. & Tn. AIN'T giving up TSIO just to make Aub. happy they're not playing LSU/Miss./MSU/Ark./TA&M anymore.
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southernboisb
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MillerLiteTime
SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
Arkansas, SC, and aTm were no brainers to add. Sure everyone wishes we could have picked up a North Carolina school instead of Mizzou, but it wasn't going to happen. We tried. So the only way to get aTm was to bring Mizzou along with them to have an even 14 teams. And aTm is the most financially rewarding conference addition since the B10 added Penn State.

If we had sat on the sidelines in the early 90's while other conferences expanded, the Big Ten would have eventually started distributing vastly more money than the SEC. The ACC would have added South Carolina. The Big 12 would have still formed but with more strength with Arkansas coming along. In this alternate universe, the SEC would have been boxed in with nowhere to expand once we realized our revenue was falling behind. And as others started paying more money and our members felt left behind, some may have looked elsewhere. It's not crazy to think Kentucky might have bolted to the B10 with a much higher payout and better basketball culture. If Kentucky bolted and the conference became even weaker with only 9 teams, LSU might have been tempted by the security of a strong Big 12 with access to Texas recruiting. We take for granted that none of the SEC teams left during all this realignment. But that is because of our financial strength and stability that came from adding Arkansas and SC in order to play an SEC title game.



1 - Nothing against Mizz., but the SEC should have added an Eastern school, then we wouldn't have all this geography threads.

2 - SC WAS IN the ACC (before joining the SEC).
"The University of South Carolina was a member of the Southern Conference for men's basketball and football from 1922 until it became a founding member of the Atlantic Coast Conference in 1953. The Gamecocks left the ACC in 1971"


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Rhino5
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re: SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
fricking freeloaders


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Irons Puppet
Auburn Fan
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
16141 posts

re: SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
I don’t know, all those states Governors are thinking more like SEC States than Kentucky’s. Makes you wonder..


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redeye
Arkansas Fan
Member since Aug 2013
5572 posts

re: SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
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On a side note, I read that LSU was in discussions to join the SWC when it was in its infancy in the 1920s.


Makes sense. LSU was also in discussions to leave the SEC before '92.


Mithridates6
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re: SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
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Makes sense. LSU was also in discussions to leave the SEC before '92.

Link? Sounds exciting though


Windy City
Texas A&M Fan
Member since Jun 2019
161 posts

re: SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
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Arkansas, SC, and aTm were no brainers to add. Sure everyone wishes we could have picked up a North Carolina school instead of Mizzou, but it wasn't going to happen. We tried. So the only way to get aTm was to bring Mizzou along with them to have an even 14 teams. And aTm is the most financially rewarding conference addition since the B10 added Penn State.

If we had sat on the sidelines in the early 90's while other conferences expanded, the Big Ten would have eventually started distributing vastly more money than the SEC. The ACC would have added South Carolina. The Big 12 would have still formed but with more strength with Arkansas coming along. In this alternate universe, the SEC would have been boxed in with nowhere to expand once we realized our revenue was falling behind.


Kind of the truth . . . it was all a huge game of Risk for the networks.
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BurgTiger
Missouri Fan
Member since Feb 2014
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re: SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
Shocking, I figured after our one time playing in the 8 years we’ve been here really would have sparked a passion for us by now.


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dstone12
East Carolina Fan
Member since Jan 2007
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re: SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
Arky and usc won the division, at least.


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kingbob
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re: SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
I don’t mind South Carolina, but I’m not really a fan of any of the expansion teams. Mizzou isn’t a culture fit and belongs with their true rivals: Kansas and Nebraska. Arkansas is irrelevant and produces the worst TD posters. A&M belongs with Texas.
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redeye
Arkansas Fan
Member since Aug 2013
5572 posts

re: SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
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Link? Sounds exciting though


I'd have to look for one, and I'm not doing that now, but LSU was in the discussion to start a new super conference in the 80s. That eventually led to Arkansas leaving for the SEC, with LSU as our sponsor, and the beginning of the expansion era.


McMillan
Missouri Fan
Member since Jul 2018
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re: SEC expansion gave us Ark, SC, A&M and Missouri.
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And no offense to Mizzou, but I don't think anyone necessarily looks forward to playing them.

That’s fine. Most of us would rather bring back the Big 8, but we can’t always get what we want.


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