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re: SEC/ESPN to announce SEC Network details tomorrow...
Posted on 4/15/13 at 12:44 pm to Bamatab
Posted on 4/15/13 at 12:44 pm to Bamatab
DFW has a lot of LSU/A&M fans.
Slive has said explicitly he wants to expand east. I'm sure he's flexible but I would really be surprised at any more overtures to OU. OSU might as well forget it.
Slive has said explicitly he wants to expand east. I'm sure he's flexible but I would really be surprised at any more overtures to OU. OSU might as well forget it.
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Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:11 pm to Bamatab
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if that's the case, then the ACC will almost have to jump to either the SEC or B1G if they want to compete in the future
That's been my position all along. Their TV rights deal simply isn't up to snuff and if it isn't fixed immediately, it will be monetary(and thus athletics) suicide for these teams to stay in the ACC. A $50mil buyout is just pennies when you are talking about making an additional $20-$30 mil per year(and the price would soar alot more by adding the NC and VA markets)...
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Heck if it is that much, OU will have to be asking themselves whether they can afford to stay hitched to the sips.
It's my understanding that OU was developing the Sooner Network as a method to get rich similar to the LHN. THAT'S why they stayed -- as it was the only conference that would allow those two networks to exist in their current capacities and they saw it as a temporary bandaid until they could get it up and rolling. Of course, the LHN has been a disaster thusfar -- and those plans are probably on hold until the LHN actually becomes profitable...
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Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:12 pm to engie
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- and those plans are probably on hold until the LHN actually becomes profitable..
This could be awhile.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:15 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Agreed. But they've got what? 12 years? on the Grant of Rights before they have to really worry about any more realignment(at least in teams leaving the Big12?
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:19 pm to engie
I'm more thinking of A&M's SEC invite, if their CFB success continues. UT is the flagship but Texans love football, more than most. So what to watch...A&M versus UA/LSU/UF, etc, etc... or UT versus OU...and that's it.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:25 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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DFW has a lot of LSU/A&M fans.
And Arkansas
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:26 pm to 870Hog
10-4
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:30 pm to engie
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Their TV rights deal simply isn't up to snuff and if it isn't fixed immediately, it will be monetary(and thus athletics) suicide for these teams to stay in the ACC
I don't see how ESPN lets their only other fully owned major conference disintegrate with several of the valuable schools going to the Big Ten and Big 12 who are both saddled up pretty cozy with Fox Sports.
If anything they will have to make the ACC a network as well or risk having control of only a single major conference.
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It's my understanding that OU was developing the Sooner Network as a method to get rich similar to the LHN. THAT'S why they stayed -- as it was the only conference that would allow those two networks to exist in their current capacities and they saw it as a temporary bandaid until they could get it up and rolling. Of course, the LHN has been a disaster thusfar -- and those plans are probably on hold until the LHN actually becomes profitable...
SoonerSportsTV is already up and running. However its not a stand alone network but rather a syndication package that runs on select FoxSports regional networks and Fox College Sports.
LINK
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Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:45 pm to engie
OU is in development of their own network.
The GOR for the Big XII is an absolute nightmare. They have effectively turned themselves into E Germany and the GOR IS THE Berlin Wall.
I'm hopeful that the SEC maintains the 51 percent. I absolutely do t want ESPN AS THE TOTAL WHOLE OWNER. That would suck.
Can't wait for tomorrow's news.
The GOR for the Big XII is an absolute nightmare. They have effectively turned themselves into E Germany and the GOR IS THE Berlin Wall.
I'm hopeful that the SEC maintains the 51 percent. I absolutely do t want ESPN AS THE TOTAL WHOLE OWNER. That would suck.
Can't wait for tomorrow's news.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:51 pm to Jobu93
Slive is a smart guy and the SEC has a lot clout right now. I'm kinda banking on conference being majority owner...we'll see soon enough.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:54 pm to engie
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It's my understanding that OU was developing the Sooner Network as a method to get rich similar to the LHN. THAT'S why they stayed -- as it was the only conference that would allow those two networks to exist in their current capacities and they saw it as a temporary bandaid until they could get it up and rolling. Of course, the LHN has been a disaster thusfar -- and those plans are probably on hold until the LHN actually becomes profitable...
No. The reason they stayed is because they weren't going to leave OSU or tu. It goes no further than that.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:55 pm to Jobu93
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I'm hopeful that the SEC maintains the 51 percent. I absolutely do t want ESPN AS THE TOTAL WHOLE OWNER
Agreed. I hate to say it but the SEC needs to follow the model set forth by the BIG Channel imo...
Posted on 4/15/13 at 1:55 pm to Govt Tide
hell yes!! now the salary cap for our players can go up 
Posted on 4/15/13 at 2:20 pm to TeLeFaWx
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No. The reason they stayed is because they weren't going to leave OSU or tu. It goes no further than that.
ALL this means is that the price they were given thusfar was wrong. No team stays to rot and die a slow death with their rivals if they are given a chance to prosper elsewhere making twice as much money. New rivals can and will be made. UNC/UVA were founding fathers of the ACC -- and you can bet that, while they won't be the ones to kill that conference, they are not going to sink along with the ship.
The fact is -- OU stayed put because they thought they could make more money in the Big12 than elsewhere based on their value evaluations of their third tier rights(which they keep there). That's the REAL reason they stayed -- not some feigned loyalty to Texas...
Posted on 4/15/13 at 2:29 pm to Dr RC
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If anything they will have to make the ACC a network as well or risk having control of only a single major conference.
It was my understanding that in the latest ACC tv contract, that ESPN had to "sell" Raycomm all of the 3rd tier games (and maybe even some of the 2nd tier games). Supposedly that was put into the contract because John Swofford's son was some sort of big wig at Raycomm. Supposedly ESPN will have a heck of a time getting those rights back from Raycomm, because they make a lot of money showing those 11:30 games (especially now that the SEC won't be showing theirs in that package).
Also I think there is some serious doubt that an ACC Network can be profitable. The ACC schools outside of Clemson, FSU, VT, & UNC really don't have the fan support to demand the cable coverage.
This post was edited on 4/15/13 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 4/15/13 at 2:50 pm to Govt Tide
SEC is fricking rich.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 3:07 pm to engie
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ALL this means is that the price they were given thusfar was wrong. No team stays to rot and die a slow death with their rivals if they are given a chance to prosper elsewhere making twice as much money.
As someone whose entire family is from Oklahoma, and whose uncle was a two time all american under switzer, and deeply tied in to the program, I can assure, they are not going to leave Oklahoma State and tu. The tu game will always be there even if tu went independent, but leaving Oklahoma State high and dry to try and join Conference USA with Baylor is just something they will simply not do. Oklahoma is not worried about money. I promise you.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 3:25 pm to TeLeFaWx
The SEC may well get rich, but you're kidding yourself if you don't think this deal will end up hitting the fans in the pocket book sooner rather than later. Look at what the cable costs have done over the yrs in general, increase after increase after increase. Personally, I get all the SEC football I want thru the current basic cable system; basketball too; locally LSU baseball gets a ton of credit. I could care less bout spring sports or specials on any SEC team. I don't mind paying for my tickets, and pay a stiff price with the TAF fees, but I pay enough for tv coverage as it is. It's going to cost us, the fans. Count on that. And it also gives ESPN a lot of control over when certain games are played, days as well as times.
Posted on 4/15/13 at 4:09 pm to Keltic Tiger
Of course it's going to effect us in our wallets. The question is
Are people willing to pay for it?
The SEC brand is tops in the collegiate world, and the idea of a loss killing a visit to Atlanta for an SECCG amps up the ante even more than the NFL.
At this point, I and many of my friends are willing to pay and pay handsomely. The safe bet is that there are millions of others just waiting for the opportunity to do the same.
Now I concede to your point that ESPN is going to have control over when TV time occurs. That can hurt on any given off year for a program.
Are people willing to pay for it?
The SEC brand is tops in the collegiate world, and the idea of a loss killing a visit to Atlanta for an SECCG amps up the ante even more than the NFL.
At this point, I and many of my friends are willing to pay and pay handsomely. The safe bet is that there are millions of others just waiting for the opportunity to do the same.
Now I concede to your point that ESPN is going to have control over when TV time occurs. That can hurt on any given off year for a program.
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