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re: SEC Coaches, ranked

Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:56 am to
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:56 am to
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If we’re talking about CEO’s/Program managers, this isn’t far off. If we’re talking about X’s and O’s it makes no sense


We’re ranking head coaches, right? Those are, by default, CEOs and program managers. Once you are the HC, you have to focus on what only you can do. You have coordinators and position coaches for the Xs and Os.

That’s how it works when you move up at any job. Do what only you can do and make sure the others do their jobs.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 11:01 am
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90409 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:02 am to
Jimbo is overrated in these things. He was average in every year he has coached that he didn’t have Winston at QB
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:12 am to
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Jimbo is overrated in these things. He was average in every year he has coached that he didn’t have Winston at QB




I got Jumbo near the bottom. One year with gen QB....the rest of his years...meh.

Suck it phags!
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27289 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:16 am to
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That’s how it works when you move up at any job. Do what only you can do and make sure the others do their jobs.


Not exactly the case with CFB coaches.Some
are CEO types (Dabo,Coach O)Others have their hands over every aspect of the program or are heavily involved in coordinating one side of the ball (Saban, Mahlzan and Kirby)
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25491 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:20 pm to
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One year with gen QB....the rest of his years...meh.


This one could backfire with LSU fans
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20271 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:26 pm to
Pruitt is interesting at 10.

Tennessee fans, just how bad was the locker room environment over there early this season, and the last couple years?

People crushed Orgeron for the Troy game, but it was necessary (per some) to break the attitude and reclaim the program.

Pruitt had 2 such games this year, Ga State and BYU. Those should be gimme's, and that would make Tennessee 10-3 this year.
Did he NEED BOTH to happen?
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13360 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:05 pm to
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You’re crazy to put Smart and Malzahn in with Orgeron, and Jimbo. Those 2 have something Smart and Malzhan do not.
They both have sucked when they didn't have that 1 Heisman QB that made them look good and won the NC for them. This is an overall coaching rankings. Not a number of NCs only.
Posted by sand mountainDvalues
Member since Oct 2018
8718 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:12 pm to
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Did he NEED BOTH to happen?

Yes imo
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:47 pm to
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Kirby Smart is a mediocre to poor in-game coach, and that won't change.


According to some clueless douche on the internet.
Posted by Mizzou Mule
St. Charles County, Missou-rah
Member since Sep 2014
3071 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:25 pm to
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Sam Pittman
Eli Drinkwitz


Until either actually does something, we are tied for the bottom. But Mizzou owns that RRRRR-kansass pork sammie program. I'm glad your precious feelings are better with Titman above Drink.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Buzz Killington
Member since Nov 2019
1477 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:31 pm to
Kirby should be 14th. He's probably the worst coach in SEC history. Even though Mullen has never beaten Kirby, or won the conference, or even his division for that matter, he's still a much better coach. I'm sure by now Mullen has his players and will now beat Kirby and win the East every year for the foreseeable future.
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
2307 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:42 pm to
Id love to see someone try to math out a composite ranking by categorizing performance between a few categories, Im thinking recruiting, talent development, scouting/game-planning, in-game/play calling, and organizational management would be my big 5.

id shoot out my own subjective but tbh I cant be bothered to research any of the dopes under Kiffin. Im not sold Kiffin is a good headcoach type but at least he's interesting.
Posted by Tunica
Member since May 2018
1789 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:44 pm to
We're all clueless, anonymous douches on the internet, and that's what makes this site great. Doesn't negate from the fact that Kirby will never win a NC, has an antiquated offense that he refuses to change, and rode with Jake Fromm over Justin Fields.

Happy MLK Day.
Posted by whatkindanameiskirby
Member since Aug 2016
2092 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:46 pm to
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has an antiquated offense that he refuses to change


Are you retarded?
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
2307 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:47 pm to
We dont really know that starting Fromm over Fields is the wrong decision. Its entirely possible Fromm is better at his shitty offense than Fields is.
Posted by Tunica
Member since May 2018
1789 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:50 pm to
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Kirby should be 14th. He's probably the worst coach in SEC history. Even though Mullen has never beaten Kirby, or won the conference, or even his division for that matter, he's still a much better coach.
Bingo. I have Mullen/Stoops/Leach in my top 4 and neither have won anything. I concocted this on the simple premise that if every coach in the league had an LSU-type roster, who would out-coach who on a given day.
Posted by Tunica
Member since May 2018
1789 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:52 pm to
No, but there's a very real chance Coach Kirby Smart might be considering his numbers and analysis pointed to Fromm over Fields
Posted by whatkindanameiskirby
Member since Aug 2016
2092 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:55 pm to
Well, if you paid attention you would know Kirby is chaining the antiquated offense. He hired Todd Monken who runs the air raid and has had a lot of success at the college level.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85789 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:58 pm to
Who else didn't know or care who Mizzou's coach was prior to this list?
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
6904 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:58 pm to
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Bingo. I have Mullen/Stoops/Leach in my top 4 and neither have won anything. I concocted this on the simple premise that if every coach in the league had an LSU-type roster, who would out-coach who on a given day.



This is a good point. Funny that the 3 guys you listed all seem to get the most out of the players that they have on the roster. That, imo, is a huge benchmark of a successful coach. I think you can put Kiffin in that category as well. He has an innate ability to get kids to buy into what he's selling.
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