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Posted on 1/9/22 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 1/9/22 at 1:27 pm
NET Rankings - SEC (Record) (Q1/Q2 Record) (Q3/4 Losses)
3. LSU (14-1) (6-1) (0)
6. Auburn (14-1) (7-1) (0)
11. Tennessee (10-4) (3-4) (0)
16. Kentucky (12-3) (1-3) (0)
22. Alabama (11-4) (7-3) (1) (Q3 - @ #199 Missouri)
45. Mississippi State (10-4) (0-4) (0)
50. Florida (9-5) (2-3) (2) (1 Q3 - vs #112 Maryland) (1 Q4 - vs #184 Tx Southern)
65. Texas A&M (12-2) (1-2) (0)
81. Vanderbilt (9-5) (2-3) (2) (Q3 - vs #98 S Carolina, vs #122 Temple)
93. Arkansas (10-5) (2-3) (2) (Q3 - vs #81 Vandy, vs #106 Hofstra)
98. South Carolina (9-4) (3-2) (2) (Q3 - vs #115 Princeton, @ #150 CCU)
111. Ole Miss (9-5) (2-3) (2) (Q3 - vs #124 WKU, vs #156 Samford)
199. Missouri (6-7) (2-6) (1) (Q4 - vs #202 UMKC)
227. Georgia (5-10) (1-5) (5) (2 Q3 - vs #102 GMU, vs #110 Wofford) (3 Q4 - vs #161 GWU, vs #168 GT, vs #183 ETSU)
3. LSU (14-1) (6-1) (0)
6. Auburn (14-1) (7-1) (0)
11. Tennessee (10-4) (3-4) (0)
16. Kentucky (12-3) (1-3) (0)
22. Alabama (11-4) (7-3) (1) (Q3 - @ #199 Missouri)
45. Mississippi State (10-4) (0-4) (0)
50. Florida (9-5) (2-3) (2) (1 Q3 - vs #112 Maryland) (1 Q4 - vs #184 Tx Southern)
65. Texas A&M (12-2) (1-2) (0)
81. Vanderbilt (9-5) (2-3) (2) (Q3 - vs #98 S Carolina, vs #122 Temple)
93. Arkansas (10-5) (2-3) (2) (Q3 - vs #81 Vandy, vs #106 Hofstra)
98. South Carolina (9-4) (3-2) (2) (Q3 - vs #115 Princeton, @ #150 CCU)
111. Ole Miss (9-5) (2-3) (2) (Q3 - vs #124 WKU, vs #156 Samford)
199. Missouri (6-7) (2-6) (1) (Q4 - vs #202 UMKC)
227. Georgia (5-10) (1-5) (5) (2 Q3 - vs #102 GMU, vs #110 Wofford) (3 Q4 - vs #161 GWU, vs #168 GT, vs #183 ETSU)
This post was edited on 1/9/22 at 1:30 pm
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Posted on 1/9/22 at 1:27 pm to SummerOfGeorge
TORVIK - OVERALL
4. Auburn
6. LSU
15. Tennessee
16. Kentucky
20. Alabama
30. Florida
44. Mississippi State
75. Texas A&M
76. Arkansas
86. Ole Miss
89. Vanderbilt
118. South Carolina
201. Georgia
232. Missouri
TORVIK - OFFENSE
9. Alabama
17. Kentucky
22. Auburn
30. Mississippi State
57. Florida
61. Arkansas
71. Tennessee
86. Texas A&M
103. Georgia
115. LSU
163. Vanderbilt
186. Ole Miss
241. South Carolina
261. Missouri
TORVIK - DEFENSE
1. LSU
4. Tennessee
7. Auburn
31. Ole Miss
33. Florida
38. Kentucky
40. South Carolina
41. Vanderbilt
70. Texas A&M
81. Mississippi State
85. Alabama
110. Arkansas
173. Missouri
298. Georgia
4. Auburn
6. LSU
15. Tennessee
16. Kentucky
20. Alabama
30. Florida
44. Mississippi State
75. Texas A&M
76. Arkansas
86. Ole Miss
89. Vanderbilt
118. South Carolina
201. Georgia
232. Missouri
TORVIK - OFFENSE
9. Alabama
17. Kentucky
22. Auburn
30. Mississippi State
57. Florida
61. Arkansas
71. Tennessee
86. Texas A&M
103. Georgia
115. LSU
163. Vanderbilt
186. Ole Miss
241. South Carolina
261. Missouri
TORVIK - DEFENSE
1. LSU
4. Tennessee
7. Auburn
31. Ole Miss
33. Florida
38. Kentucky
40. South Carolina
41. Vanderbilt
70. Texas A&M
81. Mississippi State
85. Alabama
110. Arkansas
173. Missouri
298. Georgia
This post was edited on 1/9/22 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 1/9/22 at 1:28 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Lsu too low obviously
Posted on 1/9/22 at 1:31 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Still way too early to put any weight into these, but it's nice to see how things are shaping up so far.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 1:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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TORVIK - DEFENSE
1. LSU
4. Tennessee
7. Auburn
31. Ole Miss
33. Florida
38. Kentucky
40. South Carolina
41. Vanderbilt
70. Texas A&M
81. Mississippi State
85. Alabama
Bama too high
Posted on 1/9/22 at 2:37 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Honest question, for later in the year in March Madness, would you rather be an top tier offense with an average defense, or a top tier with an average offense? For example, Bama vs LSU this year. I feel like having a top tier defense keeps you in every game but having a top tier offense can win you games in a shootout. Wishing LSU could just figure some offense out 
Posted on 1/9/22 at 2:40 pm to andrew2000
Well, we've had great offenses with lazy defenses (Gottfried) and great defenses with awful offenses (Grant) and they both frustrate you in different ways 
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I think I'd probably have a long, tough defensive team that has some streaky shooters. An attitude of toughness comes with the defensive style (which you don't have as a good offense that doesn't defend, normally), and you can get hot for 2-3 weeks. You can't really get "hot" defensively - you kind of are who you are.
. I think I'd probably have a long, tough defensive team that has some streaky shooters. An attitude of toughness comes with the defensive style (which you don't have as a good offense that doesn't defend, normally), and you can get hot for 2-3 weeks. You can't really get "hot" defensively - you kind of are who you are.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 2:45 pm to andrew2000
Give me the defense. UVA won it all playing great defense, and getting just enough offense, just a few years ago.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 2:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Well, we've had great offenses with lazy defenses (Gottfried) and great defenses with awful offenses (Grant) and they both frustrate you in different ways .
No argument there as a Saints and LSU fan. Would have many more titles, if we had a QB under Miles, or a college level defense during Brees' prime.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 2:55 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Kentucky too high
Posted on 1/9/22 at 4:09 pm to andrew2000
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Honest question, for later in the year in March Madness, would you rather be an top tier offense with an average defense, or a top tier with an average offense? For example, Bama vs LSU this year. I feel like having a top tier defense keeps you in every game but having a top tier offense can win you games in a shootout. Wishing LSU could just figure some offense out
Given LSU has had the experience of both options these last couple of years great defense streaky offense.
Great defense can create good offense via turnovers and fast breaks etc.
great offense can’t create good defense. It can make the other team a little uncomfortable by changing their pace but it doesn’t make stops.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 4:13 pm to Adam Banks
Yep - 100% agree. Elite defense with great athletes can control a game. It's very hard to do that the other way around if you can't guard.
I do think you need your defenders to also be great in transition and have a couple of guys who can be streaky good shooters. We've had some very good defensive teams who just could not score, and those teams had very little shot to beat really good teams consistently.
Our team last year was a pretty good example of a great defensive team who ran a good offensive style but was streaky in their implementation of it.
I do think you need your defenders to also be great in transition and have a couple of guys who can be streaky good shooters. We've had some very good defensive teams who just could not score, and those teams had very little shot to beat really good teams consistently.
Our team last year was a pretty good example of a great defensive team who ran a good offensive style but was streaky in their implementation of it.
This post was edited on 1/9/22 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 1/9/22 at 4:15 pm to SummerOfGeorge
LSU will have to show it can win on the road, going to be tough at Florida, especially if Pinson is out.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 4:38 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Yikes. Didn’t realize there were THAT many bad losses at the bottom of the league
Posted on 1/9/22 at 4:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
If I had to choose one, it would be great defense. Defense travels and can dictate pace, turn over points, etc. I do think it’s easier to get upset early in the tournament if you’re only good at defense tho. One guy gets hot from a mid major and it could be tough to overcome
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