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SEC Attrition Rates 2002-Present Day

Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:18 pm
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:18 pm
It will surprise you how high the attrition rate is in the SEC.

Tennessee signed 327 and lost 142 for a 43% attrition rate.

SEC Attrition Rates
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:21 pm to
If this "attrition" counts players that did sign but did not qualify, it is completely off-base.

Without checking, does it?
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 5:23 pm
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:26 pm to
The criteria is right at the top of the link.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:30 pm to
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The criteria is right at the top of the link.
The criteria listed did not address non-qualifiers.

Auburn's numbers are much more inflated than they should be because of the link counting non-qualifiers as attrition, which makes zero sense. Under Tommy Tuberville, Auburn took chances with many they knew wouldn't qualify. Due to this, the staff would place the players in junior college and re-sign them later on (counting 1 player as 2 because he is in 2 separate classes). Most of those never re-joined Auburn in the long run.

If you get where I'm going...
Posted by Dodd
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:30 pm to
Big 3
Posted by MenloDawg
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:31 pm to
Tied for last in what is essentially the entire Richt era.
Posted by mrbroker
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:31 pm to
Bama and Nick take a huge hit on attrition nationally but there are 8 schools with higher rates than Bama.
Posted by Monticello
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:33 pm to
So based on actual data, Alabama has one of the lowest "processing" rates in the conference.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

So based on actual data, Alabama has one of the lowest "processing" rates in the conference.
Again, the data collected is incorrect.

The OP, or somebody else, would have to go through every team and not count non-qualifiers.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

The criteria listed did not address non-qualifiers.

I do not know the answer. You will have to message the document authors on Google for that info.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

TTsTowel



quote:

The criteria listed did not address non-qualifiers.

Auburn's numbers are much more inflated than they should be because of the link counting non-qualifiers as attrition, which makes zero sense. Under Tommy Tuberville, Auburn took chances with many they knew wouldn't qualify. Due to this, the staff would place the players in junior college and re-sign them later on (counting 1 player as 2 because he is in 2 separate classes). Most of those never re-joined Auburn in the long run.



I'm sure you would be so vehemently defending Alabama if it were Alabama with the 45% attrition rate. Instead since it is Auburn with the really high number the information must be flawed. We all sign non-qualifiers buddy. The criteria applies equally to all schools. Shula had tons of "sign and place" recruits that make our 38% number higher than it actually is.
This post was edited on 2/16/15 at 5:40 pm
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

I'm sure you would be so vehemently defending Alabama if it were Alabama with the 45% attrition rate. Instead since it is Auburn with the really high number the information must be flawed. We all sign non-qualifiers buddy. The criteria applies equally to all schools.
Sorry, but attrition doesn't consist of players that never make it to campus. The number system used is also flawed because it is counting some players twice (specifically Nick Fairley). Unless you are unaware, Tommy Tuberville signed countless players that were unable to qualify.

Also, I'm glad Auburn can process unneeded players now. So...
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:41 pm to
Tennessee
2014 Rivals # 05 - Signed 32 - 08 (25%)
2013 Rivals # 21 - Signed 23 - 08 (35%)
2012 Rivals # 17 - Signed 22 - 10 (45%)
2011 Rivals # 13 - Signed 28 - 14 (50%)
2010 Rivals # 09 - Signed 28 - 11 (39%)
2009 Rivals # 10 - Signed 24 - 19 (79%)
2008 Rivals # 35 - Signed 18 - 06 (33%)
2007 Rivals # 03 - Signed 32 - 19 (59%)
2006 Rivals # 23 - Signed 22 - 12 (55%)
2005 Rivals # 04 - Signed 27 - 11 (41%)
2004 Rivals # 11 - Signed 24 - 07 (29%)
2003 Rivals # 18 - Signed 22 - 08 (36%)
2002 Rivals # 02 - Signed 25 - 09 (36%)


That 2009 class killed us
Posted by Monticello
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Unless you are unaware, Tommy Tuberville signed countless players that were unable to qualify.



So did Shula. That military school in Virginia was basically a boarding school for our non-qualifiers.

Evaluating the academic ability of a recruit is all a part of the game. If AU took more chances on dumb players and that affects your rate then so be it. Accept it for what it is. Don't act like AU is the only school that takes chances. It hurt all of our rates. AU had tons of arrests, academic casualties, and transfers as well.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:52 pm to
Just for the sake of arguing...

2009 Auburn Class
Terrence Coleman - JUCO
Lovoyd James - JUCO
Reggie Taylor - JUCO
Izauea Lanier - JUCO (eventually signed with Tennessee)
Brandon Jacobs - MLB
Josh Jackson - JUCO
Jeremy Richardson - JUCO

2008 Auburn Class
Ken Adams - JUCO (eventually signed with LSU)
Raven Gray - JUCO
Reggie Hunt - JUCO
Onterio McCalebb - Hargraves Military Academy (eventually signed with Auburn)

Just a bunch of examples...

There were more in those two classes alone.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:53 pm to
Well damn. Some of you need to explain your processing.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

Don't act like AU is the only school that takes chances. It hurt all of our rates
I'm clearly not, as I have stated that the system used is flawed in all cases.
quote:

AU had tons of arrests, academic casualties, and transfers as well.
Not near as many as presented in the link.

The numbers are way off.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:55 pm to
He could play DB strictly on his back peddling ability. This is awesome. Props to the OP.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 2/16/15 at 5:59 pm to
Clearly AU being worst in the SEC in recruits who sign v. those who actually complete their eligibility is bothering you. Especially since AU fans accused Bama of being some evil, cheating, processing demon for the last decade.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 2/16/15 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

He could play DB strictly on his back peddling ability. This is awesome. Props to the OP.
Are you telling me I'm wrong about the skewed number system or simply agreeing with Monticello just because?

I'm provided 4 examples of players being counted twice each. Ken Adams, Onterio McCalebb, Nick Fairley and Izaiah Lanier were all counted twice total due to the system used (4 x 2 = 8). Auburn only got 2 of those on campus yet the number counted was 6 (Nick Fairley x 2, Onterio McCalebb x 2, Ken Adams and Izaiah Lanier).
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