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Schedule Proposal - 5 permanent opponents
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:17 am
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:17 am
If I had Sankey’s ear, I would recommend a pod less system with 5 permanent opponents for everyone while the other 10 rotate in.
If we went to a 10-game schedule, it would be easy. 5 permanent and the other 10 rotate in every 2 years.
If it’s a 9-game schedule, then it would just take 1 year longer to okay everyone home and away:
Y1: 1, 2, 3, 4
Y2: 3, 4, 5, 6
Y3: 5, 6, 7, 8
Y4: 7, 8, 9, 10
At this point you’ve played everyone but haven’t visited 2 stadiums
Y5: 9, 10, 1, 2
If we went to a 10-game schedule, it would be easy. 5 permanent and the other 10 rotate in every 2 years.
If it’s a 9-game schedule, then it would just take 1 year longer to okay everyone home and away:
Y1: 1, 2, 3, 4
Y2: 3, 4, 5, 6
Y3: 5, 6, 7, 8
Y4: 7, 8, 9, 10
At this point you’ve played everyone but haven’t visited 2 stadiums
Y5: 9, 10, 1, 2
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:19 am to Tiger Phil
This would allow to maintain and build rivalries on an annual basis.
One of the early missteps of the Big 12 was relegating OU vs Nebraska to twice every 4 years.
One of the early missteps of the Big 12 was relegating OU vs Nebraska to twice every 4 years.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:22 am to Tiger Phil
Now, once every five years we can assess the top 8 teams vs the bottom 8 teams for the previous 5 years. Suppose if done today it would be top 8:
Bama
Lsu
Florida
Georgia
Auburn
Oklahoma
A&M
Texas
If you’re in the top 8, your permanents are 3 tops 8s and 2 bottom 8s and vice versa. The schedules would balance because of the 4 or 5 rotating in.
For sake of argument, LSU’s 5 could be
Bama
A&M
Ole Miss
Miss State
Florida
Bama
Lsu
Florida
Georgia
Auburn
Oklahoma
A&M
Texas
If you’re in the top 8, your permanents are 3 tops 8s and 2 bottom 8s and vice versa. The schedules would balance because of the 4 or 5 rotating in.
For sake of argument, LSU’s 5 could be
Bama
A&M
Ole Miss
Miss State
Florida
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:23 am to Tiger Phil
A&M’s 5 -
Texas
LSU
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Mizzou or MSST? Don’t care about this 5th spot much.
Works with me I guess.
Texas
LSU
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Mizzou or MSST? Don’t care about this 5th spot much.
Works with me I guess.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:24 am to Tiger Phil
quote:
If we went to a 10-game schedule, it would be easy. 5 permanent and the other 10 rotate in every 2 years.
If it’s a 9-game schedule, then it would just take 1 year longer to okay everyone home and away:
I have been pushing this idea for a week.. and it works with or without pods.. it really is a great solution to play all the rivalry games.
5 Perm + 4 Rotating = 9 Games & 5 year cycle
5 Perm + 5 Rotating = 10 Games & 4 year cycle
(3 Pod + 2 Perm) + 4/5 Rotating = Same as above
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:27 am to BigBro
It makes a lot of sense to me. Good balance between seeing everyone and building rivalries
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:28 am to Tiger Phil
You'd have to find a way to keep the schedule balanced, though, especially since the top two records in the league would go to the SEC Championship Game if there were no divisions.
You can't have Alabama's permanent opponents be Auburn, LSU, Tennessee, Texas, and Oklahoma.
You can't have Alabama's permanent opponents be Auburn, LSU, Tennessee, Texas, and Oklahoma.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:28 am to Tiger Phil
quote:
f we went to a 10-game schedule, it would be easy. 5 permanent and the other 10 rotate in every 2 years.
If you go to a 10game schedule than you keep divisions move Bama/Aub to East Mizzou and OU/Texas to the west and have 3 rotating OC games with no permanent OC games.
If done like that, a player will play all SEC teams in a 4 year stretch.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:33 am to Dudebro2
quote:
If you go to a 10game schedule than you keep divisions move Bama/Aub to East Mizzou and OU/Texas to the west and have 3 rotating OC games with no permanent OC games.
If done like that, a player will play all SEC teams in a 4 year stretch.
I think they'd still keep a permanent opponent cross division under this scenario.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:55 am to Eat Your Crow
Pods
West: Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss Miss State
East: Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, UK, Vanderbilt
Rotation A: Texas, A&M, Arkansas
Rotation B: Oklahoma, Missouri SC
Year 1 Divisions
SEC West = West + Rotation A
SEC East = East + Rotation B
Year 2 Divisions
SEC West = West + Rotation B
SEC East = East + Rotation A
Schedule
Play your Division: 7 games
Play Perm: 1 game
Rotate: 2 games
Alabama Schedule Year 1
Division: AU, LSU, OM, MS, TX, A&M, AR
Perm: TN
Rotate East: Florida, Kentucky
Alabama Schedule Year 1
Division: AU, LSU, OM, MS, OU, MO, SC
Perm: TN
Rotate East: Georgia, Vanderbilt
West: Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss Miss State
East: Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, UK, Vanderbilt
Rotation A: Texas, A&M, Arkansas
Rotation B: Oklahoma, Missouri SC
Year 1 Divisions
SEC West = West + Rotation A
SEC East = East + Rotation B
Year 2 Divisions
SEC West = West + Rotation B
SEC East = East + Rotation A
Schedule
Play your Division: 7 games
Play Perm: 1 game
Rotate: 2 games
Alabama Schedule Year 1
Division: AU, LSU, OM, MS, TX, A&M, AR
Perm: TN
Rotate East: Florida, Kentucky
Alabama Schedule Year 1
Division: AU, LSU, OM, MS, OU, MO, SC
Perm: TN
Rotate East: Georgia, Vanderbilt
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:04 am to BigBro
Here’s one idea as to permanent opponents under this system.
Team Perm 1 Perm 2 Perm 3 Perm 4 Perm 5
Alabama Auburn Tennessee Oklahoma Miss. State LSU
Auburn Alabama Georgia Florida Arkansas Missouri
Arkansas Missouri South Caro Auburn Texas Texas A&M
Florida Georgia Kentucky Auburn LSU Tennessee
Georgia Florida Auburn Texas South Caro Kentucky
Kentucky South Caro Vanderbilt Tennessee Florida Georgia
LSU Ole Miss Miss. State Texas A&M Florida Alabama
Miss. St Ole Miss LSU Texas Alabama Vanderbilt
Missouri Arkansas South Caro Ole Miss Oklahoma Auburn
Oklahom Texas Texas A&M Alabama Missouri Vanderbilt
Ole Miss Miss. State LSU Vanderbilt Missouri Tennessee
S Caro Kentucky Arkansas Missouri Texas A&M Georgia
Tenn Vanderbilt Alabama Kentucky Florida Ole Miss
Texas Texas A&M Oklahoma Georgia Arkansas Miss. State
Tex A&M Texas Oklahoma LSU South Caro Arkansas
Vandy Tennessee Kentucky Ole Miss Miss. State Oklahoma
Team Perm 1 Perm 2 Perm 3 Perm 4 Perm 5
Alabama Auburn Tennessee Oklahoma Miss. State LSU
Auburn Alabama Georgia Florida Arkansas Missouri
Arkansas Missouri South Caro Auburn Texas Texas A&M
Florida Georgia Kentucky Auburn LSU Tennessee
Georgia Florida Auburn Texas South Caro Kentucky
Kentucky South Caro Vanderbilt Tennessee Florida Georgia
LSU Ole Miss Miss. State Texas A&M Florida Alabama
Miss. St Ole Miss LSU Texas Alabama Vanderbilt
Missouri Arkansas South Caro Ole Miss Oklahoma Auburn
Oklahom Texas Texas A&M Alabama Missouri Vanderbilt
Ole Miss Miss. State LSU Vanderbilt Missouri Tennessee
S Caro Kentucky Arkansas Missouri Texas A&M Georgia
Tenn Vanderbilt Alabama Kentucky Florida Ole Miss
Texas Texas A&M Oklahoma Georgia Arkansas Miss. State
Tex A&M Texas Oklahoma LSU South Caro Arkansas
Vandy Tennessee Kentucky Ole Miss Miss. State Oklahoma
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:22 am to Tiger Phil
For all of these division less proposals have you considered the downside of:
A- an end of season rematch (ie Bama and Auburn playing 2 weeks in a row)
B- 2 teams from same side of Conference playing far from home (OU vs aTm in Atlanta, Bama vs Florida in Dallas)
Divisions let you wrap up cross division games in October and guarantee a balanced geography
A- an end of season rematch (ie Bama and Auburn playing 2 weeks in a row)
B- 2 teams from same side of Conference playing far from home (OU vs aTm in Atlanta, Bama vs Florida in Dallas)
Divisions let you wrap up cross division games in October and guarantee a balanced geography
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:24 am to Tiger Phil
quote:
Oklahom Texas Texas A&M Alabama Missouri Vanderbilt
We get 5 teams and doesn't include Arkansas ?
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:24 am to Jake81
These are two perceived downsides for sure.
But I believe the ability to build rivalries throughout the conference and the ability to see all teams within the conference outweighs these concerns, which will be very rare.
But I believe the ability to build rivalries throughout the conference and the ability to see all teams within the conference outweighs these concerns, which will be very rare.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:26 am to AustinAggie
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A&M’s 5 -
Texas
LSU
Arkansas
Oklahoma
Mizzou or MSST? Don’t care about this 5th spot much.
Hope not.
I’m already tired of A&M’s proposed schedule looking like a B12 redux.
There’s a reason we left that place.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:28 am to EKG
I’m certain A&M would play LSU Texas and Arkansas.
I think Oklahoma is a good fit regionally and historically.
Remember though, there are 9 games in this model, so every year the teams that rotate in will be mostly eastern teams.
I think Oklahoma is a good fit regionally and historically.
Remember though, there are 9 games in this model, so every year the teams that rotate in will be mostly eastern teams.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:28 am to EKG
quote:
Hope not.
I’m already tired of A&M’s proposed schedule looking like a B12 redux.
There’s a reason we left that place.
Because playing South Carolina every year makes so much sense
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:30 am to Jake81
Doesn’t have to make sense.
It’s fun.
They’re great fans.
It’s different.
This whole expansion thing stopped making “sense” long ago.
It’s fun.
They’re great fans.
It’s different.
This whole expansion thing stopped making “sense” long ago.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 11:31 am to Jake81
quote:
Because playing South Carolina every year makes so much sense
It’s very easy to nitpick one particular set of opponents. Remember that the schedule must be made for as 16 teams, however. Everyone must be accommodated, so in some cases an individual program may not get “what they desire”.
Posted on 8/2/21 at 12:30 pm to Tiger Phil
10 conference games is too many
UF and UGA have a neutral site game AND a permeant OOC game, math doesn't work for enough home games
3 perm and 6/12 rotating is a nice 9 game schedule
This is what I came up with for 3 permanent opponents for each team
UK: Tenn, Vand, Mizz
LSU: aTm, UF, OM
OU: Tex, Mizz, Ark
Tex: OU aTm, Ark
aTm: Tex, LSU, OM
Bama: Aub, Ten, MSU
AUB: Bama, UGA, MSU
Ten: Bama, Vandy, Kent
UGA: AUB, UF, USC
UF: UGA, LSU, USC
OM: MSU, LSU , aTm
MSU: OM, AUB, Bama
ARKY: Miz, OU, UT
Vandy: Tenn, USC, Kent
USC: UGA, UF, Vandy
Mizz: Arky, OU, Kent
UF and UGA have a neutral site game AND a permeant OOC game, math doesn't work for enough home games
3 perm and 6/12 rotating is a nice 9 game schedule
This is what I came up with for 3 permanent opponents for each team
UK: Tenn, Vand, Mizz
LSU: aTm, UF, OM
OU: Tex, Mizz, Ark
Tex: OU aTm, Ark
aTm: Tex, LSU, OM
Bama: Aub, Ten, MSU
AUB: Bama, UGA, MSU
Ten: Bama, Vandy, Kent
UGA: AUB, UF, USC
UF: UGA, LSU, USC
OM: MSU, LSU , aTm
MSU: OM, AUB, Bama
ARKY: Miz, OU, UT
Vandy: Tenn, USC, Kent
USC: UGA, UF, Vandy
Mizz: Arky, OU, Kent
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