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Sagarin Rankings, records vs Top 10 & top 30
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:08 pm
Team (Top 10, Top 30)
1. Alabama (0-0, 4-0)
2. Clemson (0-0, 2-0)
3. Michigan (1-1, 3-1)
4. Georgia (0-0, 3-1)
5. Oklahoma (0-0, 2-1)
6. Ohio State (1-0, 2-0)
7. West Virginia (0-0, 2-1)
8. Penn State (0-2, 2-3)
9. Notre Dame (1-0, 2-0)
10. Washington (0-0, 2-1)
15. Washington State (0-0, 2-0)
23. UCF (0-0, 0-0)
29. Utah State (0-0, 0-1)
31. Boise State (0-0, 1-0)
34. Syracuse (0-1, 0-1)
11. LSU (1-1, 3-2)
12. Mississippi State (0-1, 2-3)
16. Texas A&M (0-2, 0-4)
19. Auburn (1-1, 2-3)
20. Missouri (0-2, 1-2)
27. Florida (0-1, 2-2)
35. South Carolina (0-1, 1-3)
38. Kentucky (0-1, 3-2)
52. Tennessee (0-3, 1-4)
54. Ole Miss (0-1, 1-4)
66. Vanderbilt (0-2, 0-4)
87. Arkansas (0-1, 0-4)
1. Alabama (0-0, 4-0)
2. Clemson (0-0, 2-0)
3. Michigan (1-1, 3-1)
4. Georgia (0-0, 3-1)
5. Oklahoma (0-0, 2-1)
6. Ohio State (1-0, 2-0)
7. West Virginia (0-0, 2-1)
8. Penn State (0-2, 2-3)
9. Notre Dame (1-0, 2-0)
10. Washington (0-0, 2-1)
15. Washington State (0-0, 2-0)
23. UCF (0-0, 0-0)
29. Utah State (0-0, 0-1)
31. Boise State (0-0, 1-0)
34. Syracuse (0-1, 0-1)
11. LSU (1-1, 3-2)
12. Mississippi State (0-1, 2-3)
16. Texas A&M (0-2, 0-4)
19. Auburn (1-1, 2-3)
20. Missouri (0-2, 1-2)
27. Florida (0-1, 2-2)
35. South Carolina (0-1, 1-3)
38. Kentucky (0-1, 3-2)
52. Tennessee (0-3, 1-4)
54. Ole Miss (0-1, 1-4)
66. Vanderbilt (0-2, 0-4)
87. Arkansas (0-1, 0-4)
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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1. Alabama (0-0, 4-0)
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11. LSU (1-1, 3-2)
After all that talk about not playing anyone, LSU has played 1 more top 30 team than Bama? That's interesting.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:19 pm to bamasgot13
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After all that talk about not playing anyone, LSU has played 1 more top 30 team than Bama? That's interesting.
You are an idiot.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:20 pm to bamasgot13
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After all that talk about not playing anyone, LSU has played 1 more top 30 team than Bama? That's interesting.
Removing ourselves (since we can't play ourselves), we will have played 5 of the 6 best teams in the SEC (LSU, State, A&M, Mizzou, Auburn) in the regular season and the 6th in the SECCG.
Hard to argue we slid by against the dregs of the league.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:22 pm to LSU Patrick
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You are an idiot.
fascinating take on the topic at hand.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:23 pm to SummerOfGeorge
BUT THEY AIN’T PLAYED NOBODY PAWWLLLLLLLL!
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:28 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Pretty obvious Penn State is only top 10 to make OSU look better.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:29 pm to SummerOfGeorge
This happens EVERY, EVERY year. LSU plays a pretender the first game of the season, always toots the we play Florida horn even when Florida sux. They tout the "top 10" wins that aren't really top 10 wins.
Then, once the dust settles Bama has usually played the toughest schedule. Every single year Bama ends up playing like 4 top ten teams. Yes, I'm counting the playoffs but those are games too. Look at the possible game this year of teams that will finish in the top 10 Bama will play.
LSU
Georgia
Notre Dame
Michigan
Ohio State
Oklahoma
WVU
Clemson
LSU will have played Georgia and Alabama.
To rank schedules after week one or two or even 5 or 6 is asinine.
Then, once the dust settles Bama has usually played the toughest schedule. Every single year Bama ends up playing like 4 top ten teams. Yes, I'm counting the playoffs but those are games too. Look at the possible game this year of teams that will finish in the top 10 Bama will play.
LSU
Georgia
Notre Dame
Michigan
Ohio State
Oklahoma
WVU
Clemson
LSU will have played Georgia and Alabama.
To rank schedules after week one or two or even 5 or 6 is asinine.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:29 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I don't trust rankings that have Auburn 19.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:29 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Removing ourselves (since we can't play ourselves), we will have played 5 of the 6 best teams in the SEC (LSU, State, A&M, Mizzou, Auburn) in the regular season and the 6th in the SECCG.
Hard to argue we slid by against the dregs of the league.
Not disagreeing with your overall point, but would argue that Kentucky was better than State and Mizzou on the field (can argue against the second... bullshite PI and all...). They went 3-2 against the top 30. Miss St. went 2-3... Also, Auburn collapse tough to include them as 6 best teams this year. But no, I wouldn't fault Bama's path to the CFP once the SECCG has been played.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:32 pm to bamasgot13
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After all that talk about not playing anyone, LSU has played 1 more top 30 team than Bama? That's interesting.
Which is why talking about schedules midway through the season is patently retarded.
Some team's schedules are front loaded, others backloaded.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:32 pm to SummerOfGeorge
So...Tennessee is the only SEC team that has faced 3 top 10 teams?
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:34 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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23. UCF (0-0, 0-0)
hasn't played a single team in the top 30, yet desperately want attention and credit for being something they aren't - good or relevant.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:35 pm to TouchdownTony
Let me preface this with... IDGAF about people's strength of schedule in general. It's massively overblown and really only comes into play if your conference SOS is generally weak (see: Wisconsin) But if you're going to make an evaluation, at least do so genuinely and with a rational approach...
You don't really get to count those in your "SOS" when you didn't elect to schedule them. Those games are a result of your on field efforts through the schedule that you *did* elect to schedule.
When comparing SOS, the only thing that is really fair to evaluate is the regular season 12 games. When determining the last 4 teams, the Conference Championship games are certainly fair to evaluate across the pool of candidates (because if you are ND and don't play one, you should be penalized relative to Bama, UGA, tOSU, etc). But that's in a relative to grouping aspect only.
If you're looking at LSU and Bama, only one of those teams can lay claim to the slot in Atlanta. If it were LSU, I wouldn't give them any more SOS "credit" for the game in Atlanta when comparing to Alabama either.
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Every single year Bama ends up playing like 4 top ten teams. Yes, I'm counting the playoffs but those are games too.
You don't really get to count those in your "SOS" when you didn't elect to schedule them. Those games are a result of your on field efforts through the schedule that you *did* elect to schedule.
When comparing SOS, the only thing that is really fair to evaluate is the regular season 12 games. When determining the last 4 teams, the Conference Championship games are certainly fair to evaluate across the pool of candidates (because if you are ND and don't play one, you should be penalized relative to Bama, UGA, tOSU, etc). But that's in a relative to grouping aspect only.
If you're looking at LSU and Bama, only one of those teams can lay claim to the slot in Atlanta. If it were LSU, I wouldn't give them any more SOS "credit" for the game in Atlanta when comparing to Alabama either.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:35 pm to SummerOfGeorge
How did we beat LSU?
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:37 pm to fibonaccisquared
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You don't really get to count those in your "SOS" when you didn't elect to schedule them. Those games are a result of your on field efforts through the schedule that you *did* elect to schedule.
Yea I totally agree here. SOS at the end of the year is fine for kind of a postmortem, but SOS is generally used to see how wide ranging performances in the regular season compare. The playoffs are actual games to see who is better. It's kind of irrelevant, and you can't then compare it to a team that didn't play 2 games against Top 4 teams.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:39 pm to madmaxvol
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So...Tennessee is the only SEC team that has faced 3 top 10 teams?
One of the only teams period
21. Michigan State (1-2, 2-2)
47. TCU (0-3, 1-5)
52. Tennessee (0-3, 1-4)
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:43 pm to bamasgot13
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fascinating take on the topic at hand.
It's pretty obvious why your comment was ridiculous and inaccurate. Perhaps I shouldn't assume that posters here can figure it out for themselves.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:44 pm to LSU Patrick
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You are an idiot.
No, idiots are people who thought beating Miami and Auburn and losing to Florida made them a great team after only 6 weeks of the season had been played
Posted on 11/13/18 at 12:49 pm to LSU Patrick
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It's pretty obvious why your comment was ridiculous and inaccurate
Uh... can you define inaccurate and use it in a sentence please? For reference, here was his comment that you responded to...
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1. Alabama (0-0, 4-0)
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11. LSU (1-1, 3-2)
After all that talk about not playing anyone, LSU has played 1 more top 30 team than Bama? That's interesting.
You can point out that "at the time" it was valid, but there is nothing inaccurate about his comment there? Perhaps you can prove me wrong though.
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