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Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:19 am to Goldtide1
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At the least you require them to pay back the scholarship they were given.
And then the player goes to the local media with the name of Joe Booster who bought him the Tahoe that he's been driving for 3 years and tells them that "this guy is gonna pay back my tuition"
good luck with that
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:20 am to momentoftruth87
I think if a player wants to sit out bowl game then no biggie. Player shouldn't travel with team or get to participate in any bowl activities. Backups get some practice time at the 1, get game experience, and exposure on TV. No real downside.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:20 am to rockiee
That’s a valid point and probably the reason for the schools allowing it. Would hurt recruiting as well.
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:22 am to momentoftruth87
Easy to say when your team is playing in meaningful games every year... that being said if your team plays for one another those players might play. Id say it has a lot to do with locker-room culture.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:23 am to Goldtide1
quote:Not saying you're wrong, but do you have a link to that rule?
I played college athletics. When I signed my scholarship, the paperwork actually states that if you willfully disobey a coach or don’t perform up to reasonable standards (such as participate in practice or games when asked to do so), that you have to pay back your scholarship.
There are a lot of college athletes that quit playing sports or drop out of college. Maybe they have to pay out that semester, but I can't see them having to pay it all back.
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 10:25 am
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:23 am to Canyon16
This has always been my line of thought. People always complain that it’s not up to the public what the athlete chooses to do, which is fair, but it’s just sad to me that a teammate would abandon his team in what is most likely extremely important to the 70-80% of the team that aren’t going on to the NFL. They will go into the next stage of life having those bowl games as their highest moments and you want to put them in a position to lose after they spent their career making you look good enough to go in the draft.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:24 am to WilliamTaylor21
Technically they aren't supposed to be let out of their LOI, but we know that happens.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:26 am to Goldtide1
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At the least you require them to pay back the scholarship they were given. That’s a start. It’s most likely pocket change for the ones that do decide to sit out because they’ll soon be the ones drafted, but the schools should still charge them for it. If a student that is going to school on scholarship for academic reasons has their gpa drop below a certain level or decide to not go to class the scholarship is removed. Same standard should be applied to athletics
This is idiotic. You remove a scholarship for a kid whos GPA drops. You don't retroactively charge them for scholarship dollars already awarded. Bet your arse if you tried to charge my kid for scholarship dollars already awarded, I'd sue for unearned wages and for the millions the schools made from his hard work.
The most selfish thing for a kid who has multiple people counting on a guaranteed seven figure check if he just stays healthy is to play a game he doesn't need to play. They should sit out.
Also, this is an opportunity for the kids sitting lower in the depth chart, it's an opportunity for the coaching staff, and it's an opportunity for the fans to find some players to look forward to seeing next year. It doesn't need to be a bad thing.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:27 am to WilliamTaylor21
My scholarship papers are somewhere around my house. I will look and see if I can find them and post a picture of that section.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:27 am to momentoftruth87
I get an injured guy missing a bowl. I get a guy missing the Liberty Bowl. I lt will happen soon when a healthy guy skips a CFP game to focus on the draft. THAT is when it will hit get real
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:29 am to chillmonster
Thats why I watch some directional bowl. To see other players get reps. Same reason I watch A day games. I honestly coupd care less if AU wins the game.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:30 am to Goldtide1
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At the least you require them to pay back the scholarship they were given. That’s a start.
RIP to the career of the first coach that chooses this option.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:31 am to Aggiehoss04
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lt will happen soon when a healthy guy skips a CFP game to focus on the draft
And if that guy was forced to play do you think he would give full effort?
It would be a terrible distraction and cause issues in locker room. That player would be trouble. The players on the team would want that guy to be removed and as far away from them and their bowl preparation/experience as possible.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:32 am to Aggiehoss04
If I'm an NFL GM do I seriously wanna draft a guy who quits on his team before a bowl game & if they eventually begin sitting out playoff games that shows lack of character, dedication & heart.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:34 am to Canyon16
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If I'm an NFL GM do I seriously wanna draft a guy who quits on his team before a bowl game
Yes, assuming they can help my team win.
I can motivate them with money and employment in the pros.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:35 am to momentoftruth87
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I feel there should be a rule that players cannot sit out. Bunch of selfish vaginas.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:36 am to Canyon16
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If I'm an NFL GM do I seriously wanna draft a guy who quits on his team before a bowl game & if they eventually begin sitting out playoff games that shows lack of character, dedication & heart.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:50 am to Saskwatch
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I think if a player wants to sit out bowl game then no biggie. Player shouldn't travel with team or get to participate in any bowl activities. Backups get some practice time at the 1, get game experience, and exposure on TV. No real downside.
This is still tricky where you have guys with knocks that they could normally play through but decide is too much to risk further injury in a bowl. It could easily become a PR nightmare for that school if Star Player X is told he will not be allowed to enjoy any of the bowl experience then posts on social media about having his ankle wrapped in ice or whatnot.
Also, to all the idiots asking for the scholarship to have to be repaid, they aren't even in class for these bowls. The fall semester has been completed. Even if they immediately yank the scholarship, it would just mean the kid doesn't have one for the spring. You cannot retroactively pull the scholarship funding for past semesters. That would definitely be illegal.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 11:02 am to DoreonthePlains
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It could easily become a PR nightmare for that school if Star Player X is told he will not be allowed to enjoy any of the bowl experience then posts on social media about having his ankle wrapped in ice or whatnot.
You ask the player "Do you want to play?"
If he says yes then play him
If he says no then leave him at home to focus on "rehab/recovery" for his upcoming NFL career
Combine and draft workouts are pretty close to the end of the college season
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