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Rick Ray a better coach than Frank Martin?

Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:34 am
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:34 am
Many people, including myself questioned the hiring of Rick Ray last year. He had to endure 2 transfers 2 players declaring for the draft having to kick 2 players off the team for breaking team rules and losing 4 players to season ending Injuries. He has had to play with 6 or 7 scholarship players for most of the season.

Frank Martin came with high credentials and a full roster of scholarship players.

After 3 head to head games Rick Ray has th 2-1 advantage.
Having to play this guy extended minutes.
This post was edited on 3/14/13 at 12:35 am
Posted by Requiem For A Dawg
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:38 am to
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. He had to endure 2 transfers 2 players declaring for the draft having to kick 2 players off the team for breaking team rules and losing 4 players to season ending Injuries. He has had to play with 6 or 7 scholarship players for most of the season.


Get the frick out. Seriously.
This post was edited on 3/14/13 at 12:39 am
Posted by KCM0Tiger
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:42 am to
No. Dont know much about Rick Ray, but Frank Martin is a really good coach
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:43 am to


Martin went to the tourney 4 out of 5 years at K state, and has an elite 8 appearance.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:44 am to
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Martin went to the tourney 4 out of 5 years at K state, and has an elite 8 appearance.


Yet he had a losing season this year losing 2 of 3 to Mississippi State and Rick Ray
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:46 am to
What was Ray's record? If I had to bet Martin will take USC farther than Ray will state.
Posted by BRUNNIN4
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:46 am to
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Yet he had a losing season this year losing 2 of 3 to Mississippi State and Rick Ray

And? Saban lost his first head-to-head with Miles.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:47 am to
Martin is recruiting way ahead of Ray, so not only is he a better coach, he's getting better talent for the future.

SC will own MSU soon.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:48 am to
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No. Dont know much about Rick Ray, but Frank Martin is a really good coach


Why couldn't he beat a Mississippi State team with 6 scholarship players and not a single returning who had EVER played in the SEC tournament before
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:49 am to
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What was Ray's record? If I had to bet Martin will take USC farther than Ray will state.


Says the Auburn fan who also lost to Rick Ray
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:50 am to
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Says the Auburn fan who also lost to Rick Ray


What does that have to do with anything? I guess this is your way of convincing yourself Ray is a good coach.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:52 am to
Doesn't South Carolina only have 8 scholarship players and one of them is a WR for the football team, so really only 7?
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:53 am to
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What does that have to do with anything? I guess this is your way of convincing yourself Ray is a good coach.


Do you realize what Ray had to work with this year? Do realize he lost 4 players to season ending injuries and started 3 freshmen for most of the year.

We lose nobody off this team and are bringing in 6 new players.
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:55 am to
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We lose nobody off this team and are bringing in 6 new players.


Cool, that tells me you might be just as bad next year.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:58 am to
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Doesn't South Carolina only have 8 scholarship players and one of them is a WR for the football team, so really only 7?


They have 9 and Ellington who is good enough to be on scholarship.
Posted by Woopigsooie20
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:58 am to
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Yet he had a losing season this year losing 2 of 3 to Mississippi State and Rick Ray


He's a coach, not jesus.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 1:00 am to
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Cool, that tells me you might be just as bad next year.


Unlike Auburn over the past 3 years under Barbee we actually showed Improvement and our coaching staff stresses player development.

We had 2 FR make the SEC all freshman team and have 2 good PG recruits coming in next year.
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 1:01 am to
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They have 9 and Ellington who is good enough to be on scholarship.



Meh, so 8 scholarship basketball players, a bunch of young players, and a roster that lost multiple players to transfers.

Season was a wash, didn't SC finish ahead of MSU in the standings? Which is really what matters, not head to head.

Not to mention Martin outrecruiting Ray by a mile for 2013 and 2014.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 1:01 am to
Hey Hogs, your boy Anderson sure has lived up to your expectations. His team isn't any better this year than last
Posted by UltimateHog
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 1:02 am to
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Hey Hogs, your boy Anderson sure has lived up to your expectations.

You're right, he has.

quote:

His team isn't any better this year than last


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