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Rick Barnes: "The FBI didn't have the playbook. Believe me, they don't have the playbook"

Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:09 pm
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40948 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:09 pm
Gave a 3 minute long monologue answer to a question today about whether he watched "The Scheme" and LSU finishing one game ahead of Tennessee in the SEC standings in 2019.

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"I'd like to say I feel confident (that the NCAA will hold coaches accountable). When I watched that the other night, obviously it was going to be shaded towards the views of Christian Dawkins, but I was shocked at the FBI. I was shocked at their approach at how they thought they were going to see coaches take money and hand it somewhere. Their approach where they said they had the playbook, they didn't have the playbook. Believe me, they don't have the playbook. What's going on in college basketball, I could go back decades. It's been something every decade some way some how."

"I don't think there's any question the NCAA knows what's gone on in our sport forever. I really believe that, trust me, they know. The point is they would say 'we can't wire tap, we can't do this, we can't do that' but I don't think you have to wiretap. Some of the things that were said the other night were pretty tough. Anybody listening to that and understanding that conversation, it gets back to universities. How do we want to be looked upon, how do want to do things? Am I confident the NCAA do the right thing? I can tell you this, I think they will do everything they can with the information they have."

"I can also say you this: the NCAA has a lot of money they have to set aside for lawsuits. They got money set aside for litigation and legal fees. It bothered me a couple months ago when they said they have to slow down, we don't have enough people to investigate all the six or eight teams or whatever it is we need to look at. That's disappointing because it goes on year after year after year and those teams are benefitting from some of the things they did and now they're playing for another championship or whatever it may be. That's the disappointing part that we can't get to an answer quicker. You can talk about due diligence but how hard is it to get into it and if you can get what you need to get, you get it. If you can't you can't."

"Our whole business gets criticized and people think that's what the whole business is, and it's not. It's really not. There's a whole lot of coaches I could go down the line and name and tell you they were in the business for a long time and they didn't cheat, they haven't cheated and they won't cheat. I've been doing this for over 40 years and we all get reputations and it's mostly based on how we do things and go about our business. Believe me, there are more coaches that don't do what was on the other night than do."

"I can sit here and say technically, did we win the conference championship back to back? Technically nothing's been proven, so I can't say that. There's rules in place but I can also say we don't always get what we want in life."
Posted by scionofadrunk
Williamson County, TN
Member since Mar 2020
1961 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:11 pm to
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"Our whole business gets criticized and people think that's what the whole business is, and it's not. It's really not. There's a whole lot of coaches I could go down the line and name and tell you they were in the business for a long time and they didn't cheat, they haven't cheated and they won't cheat. I've been doing this for over 40 years and we all get reputations and it's mostly based on how we do things and go about our business. Believe me, there are more coaches that don't do what was on the other night than do."
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93616 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:14 pm to
He also says...
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Believe me, they don't have the playbook. What's going on in college basketball, I could go back decades. It's been something every decade some way some how." 

"I don't think there's any question the NCAA knows what's gone on in our sport forever. I really believe that, trust me, they know.

Hopefully this whole FBI investigation gets coaches go at least take the cheating down a notch. It will never be totally clean.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:15 pm to
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there are more coaches that don't do what was on the other night than do.


In division 1? Completely and utter fricking bullshite.
All you have to do is look at where recruits come from and where they go to know that there is money changing hands.

FFS SMU's football operation looks like the most covert operation in history compared to what happens in college basketball year after year.

Not gonna argue whether it's wrong or right, but every team that has made it to the tournament in the past few years cheats to some extent, and that includes my own. What bothers me is that the level of cheating may not be equivalent across schools, and that is unfair.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79892 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:17 pm to
Aren't AAU programs basically the go-between?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93616 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:17 pm to
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What bothers me is that the level of cheating may not be equivalent across schools, and that is unfair.

Have to agree. Too bad the NCAA doesn't care to clean it up at all.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71042 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:17 pm to
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Believe me, they don't have the playbook. What's going on in college basketball, I could go back decades. It's been something every decade some way some how


Lol. First of all Skelator, you dont have the playbook either. And I bet you can go back decades old bones.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:20 pm to
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"Our whole business gets criticized and people think that's what the whole business is, and it's not. It's really not. There's a whole lot of coaches I could go down the line and name and tell you they were in the business for a long time and they didn't cheat, they haven't cheated and they won't cheat. I've been doing this for over 40 years and we all get reputations and it's mostly based on how we do things and go about our business. Believe me, there are more coaches that don't do what was on the other night than do."
@LSU fans get in heeeeeeere
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40948 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:20 pm to
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every team that has made it to the tournament in the past few years cheats to some extent, and that includes my own.


VOLS were not cheating. Whiffed on every Top 125 kid they offered for Prick's first 3 years and got very very lucky beating out App State and Yale for several of these players that somehow turned in to the best class in school history.


They have had some staff turnover and are likely cheating their balls off now though.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40948 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:24 pm to
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Aren't AAU programs basically the go-between?



Yes. VOLS have 2 top 15 overall players coming in in the fall and both played on AAU teams coached by former VOLS players.

B Maze Elite is a team on the UA Circuit that is funded by Larry Pratt (whose name is on our practice facility( and coached by Bobby Maze, who played PG for Pearl. He has 9 top 50 kids across a couple classes from all over the SE driving to Knoxville to practice in the summer. Jaden Springer was their first McDonald's AA type but they have many more coming. Has been a huge benefit to Prick.

Stuff like that is very common to varying degrees.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5803 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:26 pm to
The reality is that Iyar he AAU and shoe company system. The colleges are nothing more than a conduit to pro ball( for an individual player) or TV exposure (For a program ). The shoe companies want the next MJ. The AAU coaches want to make a living off of kids from the hood. College coaches are in between. Send a kid to the right AAU team, then the right college—you have him for life as a pro. Worst case scenario, you have the entire successful NCAA team with exposure for your brand. Dont hate the coaches, hate the game. You think Zion turned down 150k and a house to go to Duke for a one year education ? You think kid you signed that didn’t go to UNC, Duke, G town , etc signed for you bc if Rick Barnes or bc of an education at Tennessee ? Really ?
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35928 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:26 pm to
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Lol. First of all Skelator, you dont have the playbook either. And I bet you can go back decades old bones.



Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40948 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:28 pm to
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You think kid you signed that didn’t go to UNC, Duke, G town , etc signed for you bc if Rick Barnes or bc of an education at Tennessee ? Really ?



He signed because Larry Pratt is pumping hundreds of thousands in to B Maze Elite to steer kids to Tennessee. Bobby Maze who runs that program sits courtside for every Tennessee game.

Prick is way too lazy to get involved in this. Look at his classes before Bobby Maze fired up his AAU program.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:30 pm to
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Too bad the NCAA doesn't care to clean it up at all.


Because it involves exposing schools they don't want to expose. The concept of the "underdog" doesn't exist in the college basketball world, but exposing that fact would turn off march madness viewers and hurt the NCAA's bottom line.

Thing is, it's not some huge conspiracy. The programs don't exactly try to hide it, and now you can get a taste of those conversations on HBO. The NCAA is just complacent and viewers are apparently willfully ignorant. I think it hurts the [college version of the] sport long-term though.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37388 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:50 pm to
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Our whole business gets criticized and people think that's what the whole business is, and it's not. It's really not. There's a whole lot of coaches I could go down the line and name and tell you they were in the business for a long time and they didn't cheat, they haven't cheated and they won't cheat. I've been doing this for over 40 years and we all get reputations and it's mostly based on how we do things and go about our business. Believe me, there are more coaches that don't do what was on the other night than do."


Bull. shite.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8152 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:53 pm to
Rick is just as clean as Roy Williams.
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
16626 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:55 pm to
Yeahhh, Rick Barnes got Kevin Durant to Texas solely because they're a basketball blue blood..
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71042 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:25 pm to
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Rick is just as clean as Roy Williams.



= filthy
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:32 pm to
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Rick Barnes: "The FBI didn't have the playbook. Believe me, they don't have the playbook"


Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9324 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 9:33 pm to
This is horseshite, if the schools wanted it cleaned up it would be, it's just about money
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 6:03 pm
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