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re: Richt today and Miles vs. Auburn in '07

Posted on 1/2/12 at 6:58 pm to
Posted by SECond2none™
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 6:58 pm to
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Still doesn't make them the same situation.


Yeah, I just posted that for the woefully uninformed people that say Miles called a hail- Mary with 7 seconds left in the game and was lucky that time didnt run out.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 7:00 pm to
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Here's the video. Play gets sent in. Flynn then huddles and calls play and the huddle breaks with 19 seconds left, which is plenty of time. Ball is not snapped until 8-9 seconds left on clock but Byrd is CLEARLY down on his back in the endzone with the ball with 3 seconds left on the clock. Watch it.


Yes I know there would have been possibly one to two seconds left. You don't know how the refs would have called it.

Yes I know lsu won, that is all that matters. However, there was some bad clock mismanagement that happened at the end of the game, whether it was miles or the players fault , who knows . But there should have been a timeout called.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 7:00 pm to
You saw a different interview than I, apparently.
This post was edited on 1/2/12 at 7:02 pm
Posted by SECond2none™
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 7:01 pm to
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Miles made the call with 7 seconds or so on the clock when they were down. Richt made the call when it was a tie and the worst thing a missed FG would do is send it to another OT.


Care to actually watch the play and then admit whether or not you are just trolling, or if you have no idea what you are talking about. Thanks.
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 7:05 pm to
Dumb thread... Miles went for the TD leaving the FG as option B. Richt passed up option A and went directly for B.

When Bama missed their FG in OT. Miles didn't immediately set up for a FG.

It was a dumb decision on the part of Richt period
Posted by SECond2none™
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 7:07 pm to
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But there should have been a timeout called.


That's the only thing that can be argued here. I'm just tired of hearing miles called a play with 7 seconds left. I can forgive the no time out. As it's happening you keep expecting the snap any second, and even after all of the time that was wasted by the offense, we still should've had 3 seconds left on the clock. There was NOTHING wrong with the play call.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 7:47 pm to
It was a 36 yard FG with the best kicker in the SEC who was hitting that distance consistently. Miles went for a pass that if not caught would have run the clock out and lost the game. Miles made a stupid call but lucked out.
Posted by SECond2none™
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 7:53 pm to
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It was a 36 yard FG with the best kicker in the SEC who was hitting that distance consistently. Miles went for a pass that if not caught would have run the clock out and lost the game. Miles made a stupid call but lucked out.


Please explain to me how a pass to the endzone called with 25 seconds on the clock is a stupid call, and not just your butthurt-ness. Please use the video I posted to aid your explanation. Thanks.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:12 pm to
Ball was snapped with 7 seconds left
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:39 pm to
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Please explain to me how a pass to the endzone called with 25 seconds on the clock is a stupid call, and not just your butthurt-ness. Please use the video I posted to aid your explanation. Thanks.


Do what?
Posted by noladan
new orleans
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:39 pm to
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It was a 36 yard FG with the best kicker in the SEC who was hitting that distance consistently. Miles went for a pass that if not caught would have run the clock out and lost the game. Miles made a stupid call but lucked out.

Wow. Ball is CAUGHT with 4 seconds left. 3 seconds ran off after the catch that should not have. The clock operator and Mike Patrick's idiotic commentary made that look like a much riskier play than it was.

I've had my issues with Miles' clock management in a couple of games, but I always defended him on this one. Only the lazy, or those with an agenda fail to see that this call was fine.....Unless Flynn had scrambled around for a few seconds we would still have had time for the FG.
Posted by SECond2none™
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:51 pm to
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Ball was snapped with 7 seconds left


What does that have to do with when the play was called and whether or not it was a dumb call?
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:53 pm to
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Except the two situations have literally nothing whatsoever in comm


Well, other than both being in position to win the game with a 40-ish yard field goal if they played conservatively and depended on their kicker or they could take a chance and go for a better chance to win, you're right. They have nothing in common except for pretty much everything important.
Posted by SECond2none™
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:54 pm to
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Do what?


I wanna know why he thinks calling one last pass to the endzone, while there are still 25 seconds on the clock, before you try a game winning field goal, is dumb on Miles' part.
Posted by America1776
USA
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:54 pm to
I don't get why everyone is so upset at Richt for this. Miles did it on Nov 5th. We weren't going for a TD in overtime. All we needed was a field goal and besides one option to the outside, I'm pretty sure we just ran it up the gut. Then set the ball up in the middle and kicked on 3rd down. There may be a few differences, but I didn't see any significant ones besides we moved the ball and they didn't. Whatever, I don't care.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:55 pm to
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What does that have to do with when the play was called and whether or not it was a dumb call?

Never said dumb call. Ballsy call - just dumb clock management.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:55 pm to
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, I always supported Miles call in the Auburn 2007 game


As would anybody with any sense. He made the right call. Richt made the wrong one. They each got the result they deserved.

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Richt did this in OT and had a fieldgoal kicker that had missed several field goals during the year


Exactly. A field goal of 40 or so yards is never a sure thing, even with a reliable kicker. That's why you don't go conservative in that situation, at least not to the extent Richt did.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:58 pm to
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Totally different situations. Miles made the call with 7 seconds or so on the clock when they were down


bullshite. There were over 20 seconds left, and each was in position to win with a 40 or so yard field goal if it was successful. Miles took a chance because he knew the FG wasn't a sure thing, and he could come back and kick the FG on the next play if he didn't get the TD. Richt, on 2nd down, had the chance to go for more yardage or maybe even a TD, but instead took a knee to center the ball at the 25. Miles could have done the same thing against Auburn in '07, but thankfully made a better decision.
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22046 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:00 pm to
This is so stupid.

First of all, Miles' call was questionable despite it working. But still, it was VERY different circumstances.

Miles took a shot with 7 seconds left.

CMR, with no clock to force his hand, gave up on his offensive drive and called one of the pussiest "don't-lose" plays we've seen in a long time.

Why give up on your offense with 2 plays left before a FG attempt? It'd have been questionable if he had done it on 3rd and 3. That would have been met with criticism from at least some people who think you should be out there to win.

But to do kneel it on 2nd to kick on 3rd with only 3 yards to go? That is absolute lunacy, and unreal for a man in his position.

They'll all blame Bobo, just look at Bill King's article on AJC. But CMR lost this game and painted his team as a very scared one.
Posted by SECond2none™
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:00 pm to
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Never said dumb call. Ballsy call - just dumb clock management.


More like poor execution by the offense. The huddle broke with 19 seconds left and you don't snap it till 8 seconds left with the clock winding down.
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