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Realistic candidates for lOle Miss per Dennis Dodd
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:28 am
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:28 am
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Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:31 am to Serraneaux
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2. Les Miles
3. Butch Jones
neither of those are very realistic. Once Ole Miss is put on probation for 3 years, Ole Miss is going to have to hire a young coach wanting P5 experience or a younger coach looking to redeem himself. It's going to be Matt Luke. A 63 year old Les Miles is not going to waste 5 years at a program like that. Butch Jones will not likely get fired by UT this season either.
I'd go:
1. Matt Luke
2. Lane Kiffin
3. Derek Dooley
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 10:32 am
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:32 am to Serraneaux
So Butch Jones gets fired at the end of the year and Ole Miss hires him?
Just curious, what's Butch's buyout right now?
Just curious, what's Butch's buyout right now?
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:34 am to Serraneaux
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1. Matt Luke
Unless he's caught up in the recruitment shenanigans too...
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2. Les Miles
If Les decides to make his return w/a team about to be gutted by sanctions instead of getting paid to play golf he will have proven every nega-Tiger that said he is an idiot correct.
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3. Butch Jones
Will be headed to a MAC school once Tenner dumps him.
OM job will either go to a lifelong Reb like Luke who really does want to be there or a coach who has little to no P5 promotion options like Mark Hudspeth or Jim Leavitt.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 10:35 am
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:36 am to Serraneaux
I would take a look at UAB or Jax St.'s head coach. No way I go with a retread.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:38 am to Serraneaux
quote:if ya can't beat em, join em.
Butch Jones
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:42 am to Dr RC
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If Les decides to make his return w/a team about to be gutted by sanctions instead of getting paid to play golf he will have proven every nega-Tiger that said he is an idiot correct
Why? Some people actually love their work more than sitting on their arse. I would personally not enjoy waking up every day with no objective. Maybe Les is the same way.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:46 am to TomRollTideRitter
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Why? Some people actually love their work more than sitting on their arse. I would personally not enjoy waking up every day with no objective. Maybe Les is the same way.
Do you really think if Les was that desperate to have a job to go to every day that he'd still be unemployed?
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:48 am to Serraneaux
Please give Matt Luke a show cause NCAA. Pretty please
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:48 am to lsufball19
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Ole Miss is going to have to hire a young coach wanting P5 experience or a younger coach looking to redeem himself
I wouldn't do this. They need a veteran coach who knows how to deal with powerful boosters and administrators. Les is the perfect candidate. Not to win necessarily but to get the program through this time.
SMU hired a coach with no control after Ron Meyer left. That's why the didn't stop cheating even after getting major sanctions multiple times. Les knows how to manage and control a program and commands respect based on winning a national title.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:49 am to Dr RC
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If Les decides to make his return w/a team about to be gutted by sanctions instead of getting paid to play golf he will have proven every nega-Tiger that said he is an idiot correc
Les is getting paid either way so it isn't about the money. He is 63. You keep hearing that he wants to coach again but nobody is beating down his door right now and at his age, the longer he's away the less chance there is that he'll ever get another opportunity. If he really does want another HC gig, taking the OM job is pretty much a no-lose situation for him. If he so much as hovers around the .500 mark during the probation he'll have the chance to either stay there long term or take one of the many higher profile openings that will come his way. If he doesn't, then in 4-5 years he'll be the same thing he is today - a rich former coach who gets to play golf whenever he wants except that he'd have gotten to do the thing he loves for a few more years.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:51 am to lsufball19
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Do you really think if Les was that desperate to have a job to go to every day that he'd still be unemployed?
He's got a quirky personality, he's in his middle 60s, and he has a recent reputation of having let the game pass him by. I really don't think that many P5 programs would have him on their short list.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:52 am to lsufball19
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Do you really think if Les was that desperate
Reports are he wants the job so maybe. I didn't say I think he will take it. I'm just saying if he does take it, it doesn't mean he's an idiot. He's only an idiot if he takes it for the purpose of winning a national title in 3 or 4 seasons.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:53 am to JustGetItRight
LSU fans want him away from the SEC at all cost because they know wherever he goes he will be a pain in their arse every year on the field and in recruiting
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:54 am to lsufball19
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2. Lane Kiffin
Doesn't make much sense from the perception that Ole Miss will be trying to distance itself from. Also, he seemingly learned the lesson that you don't want to take over a team facing sanctions. He took the USC job the season their Reggie Bush sanctions went into effect.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 10:55 am to TomRollTideRitter
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Reports are he wants the job so maybe. I didn't say I think he will take it. I'm just saying if he does take it, it doesn't mean he's an idiot. He's only an idiot if he takes it for the purpose of winning a national title in 3 or 4 seasons.
Les is quirky but he's not dumb, especially when it comes to money. He entertained offers from Arkansas and Michigan in the past with no intent of leaving LSU but got a nice pay bump each time. He's required to seek employment per the terms of his buyout, so of course he says he's interested. He kind of has to. Honestly, Miles could make plenty of money working on TV, something his daughter has been pushing him to do.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:03 am to lsufball19
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He's required to seek employment per the terms of his buyout, so of course he says he's interested. He kind of has to.
This
Les Miles may be a quirky 63 year old but if he truly wanted a HC job he could have had one by now.
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:03 am to TomRollTideRitter
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I wouldn't do this. They need a veteran coach who knows how to deal with powerful boosters and administrators. Les is the perfect candidate. Not to win necessarily but to get the program through this time.
good luck getting a veteran coach to take the job. Veteran coaches want to go somewhere where they can win fast, not somewhere that will require a 5+ year rebuild. That's why you rarely see veteran coaches take over a team with probation issues like Ole Miss is facing. I have no doubt Ole Miss would love to have a guy like Les Miles. I just don't think he'd take the job.
Let's take a look at schools that have gotten bowl bans recently and who they hired.
Penn State - hired O'Brien, OC for the Patriots, who left after 2 seasons
UNC - promoted their DC to HC, then they hired Fedora from Southern Miss
USC - Lane Kiffin
Mississippi State - hired Croom
Alabama - hired Mike Price then Shula
Kentucky - hired their OL coach, Guy Morris
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 11:04 am
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:07 am to Henry Jones Jr
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LSU fans want him away from the SEC at all cost because they know wherever he goes he will be a pain in their arse every year on the field and in recruiting
not worried about Les out-recruiting anyone when Ole Miss loses 25-30 scholarships over the next 3 years. He's going to be fielding teams with about 50 scholarship players. He's not going to be a thorn in anyone's side with those numbers. And that's exactly why he won;t take the job. Les cares about winning too much to take that job.
ETA: I don't want him to take the job honestly because I think it will further tarnish his legacy and reputation at LSU, and he doesn't deserve that after what he did for the program
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 11:09 am
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