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re: Question for the Auburn, Mizzou, and UGA fans...

Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:52 pm to
Posted by wstorie44
Farmington
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:52 pm to
Lol trade ya stadiums, at least we have one thing nicer
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:04 am to
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at least we have one thing nicer


Two...

Mizzou...



LSU...



Posted by wstorie44
Farmington
Member since Dec 2012
3193 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:09 am to
Ok two nicer things, our Football stadium will never be as great as yours but still gonna be nice after its completed.
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:27 am to
I don't think UGA's pool is necessarily a groundbreaking design. It is pretty utilitarian, but I do like the high ceiling design. I think what makes the UGA swimming program has always been Bauerle's ability to get Olympic level swimmers to sign on. Well, that just went out the window, so we will see how his top asst does when he takes over the reins. Didn't work out so well in gymnastics.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:28 am to
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Pool is part of a large rec center that was built in 2005, so hard to break out just the pool, but the whole thing was $63mm



Mizzou actually paid for their pool using student fees instead of having the athletic department pay for it. Technically the students decided to do this, but it was packaged as a part of one of a couple options, students are dumb, and the students voting to approve of this plan were not the ones who would be paying for it when it was complete several years later so... the athletic department pretty much sponged off the students to cover an olympic sized pool that was only necessary for athletic events.
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:43 am to
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Mizzou actually paid for their pool using student fees instead of having the athletic department pay for it. Technically the students decided to do this, but it was packaged as a part of one of a couple options, students are dumb, and the students voting to approve of this plan were not the ones who would be paying for it when it was complete several years later so... the athletic department pretty much sponged off the students to cover an olympic sized pool that was only necessary for athletic events.



Yes, but i assume, that like at UGA, students and staff can all use the pool outside the designated practice times. AT least when I was there, the UGA pool had plenty of open swimming hours. UGA's was paid for, along with the whole student rec center by a very generous donation from the Ramsey family.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36105 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:59 am to
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Yes, but i assume, that like at UGA, students and staff can all use the pool outside the designated practice times. AT least when I was there, the UGA pool had plenty of open swimming hours.



As someone who had to pay extra fees because the athletic department didn't want to I don't find that a satisfying explanation.

As I've already pointed out there is no need for an olympic sized pool unless you need to have athletic meets. The prior pool there was perfectly functional for the general public and the student body - it just wasn't good enough for the swim teams. They should have had to pay for it instead of referring the fees onto teh students.

This is just one of the many ways in which the price of an education is increased for students when it should not - or at least costs should be better restrained.
Posted by PNW
Northern Rockies
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:04 am to
Well ya it was built before the Olympics

If we build something new today I'm sure it would be groundbreaking as you put it. And is Bauerle officially gone? I thought they were still investigating? And by the way, our assistant would be hired at every other program as top dog so don't let the gymnastics thing scare you...
Posted by ehole
in a house
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 7:14 am to
That situation with jack is just weird... dude was coaching uga months before I was born... true sec og lol. Bama's pool isn't that bad. I can assure you no world records have fallen in Mizzou's super structure, yet they have at bama. LSU's pool does suck, I was horrified by it in 95 as a kid. It is better than UNO's pool lol. UF needs a new pool like a champ. The o'dome just needs to go. All pools are a money pit so hopefully you guys will build one the students will enjoy also.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17952 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:03 am to
The student fees were minimal and students get full access to the facility. Students even get to swim laps in the team pool whenever they want. The pictures didn't show it but there is also a nice diving pool in the complex separate from the lap pool.

It was a great deal for the students. I was there when it was passed and I was there to enjoy it after it opened. The pool was a small part of the costs. The lazy river, lounge pools, massive weight rooms, new rock climbing wall, more racket ball courts, snack areas, coffee bar, locker rooms, etc. were all part of it and all those things benefited the students. If I had to guess, adding the pool was less than half of the $63million renovation. I'd guess it was around $10-15 million.
Posted by ManicTiger
the real Columbia
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:18 am to
A lot of people dont know this because they were trying to keep it a secret at the time in order to keep him from distractions, but Michael Phelps trained at the Mizzou swimming pool for a little while before the Beijing Olympics, where he went on to win his 8 gold medals.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17952 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:27 am to
There is a fairly large national swimming meet held at Mizzou's pool every year. I remember phelps swimming in it a few years ago. That is probably where he got familiar enough with it to decide to train there.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/14/14 at 9:57 am to
Phelps coined the term "fast water" that MizzouRec uses. He liked swimming there because of the design of the pool, but I wasn't aware he lived and trained in Columbia for any significant length of time.

They used to host an Olympic qualifying tournament every year, not sure if they still do. But that entire rec center is fantastic. Students get full access. It's a selling point to incoming freshmen.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23965 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:03 am to
that lazy river looks badass
Posted by NEMizzou
Columbia MO
Member since Nov 2013
1369 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 10:33 am to
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I can assure you no world records have fallen in Mizzou's super structure, yet they have at bama



Actually....

LINK

Kirsty Coventry, Natalie Coughlin and Michael Phelps have all set world records there. It's kind of a badass pool, if there is such a thing.

I went to Mizzou for 7 yrs total, and the first four years I paid an extra $175 a semester I think for the right to build a pool that most students who went to school from 2001 - 2005 would never enjoy. I did get to use it the last three years I was there and it is pretty fantastic, along with the rest of the rec center, but man they hosed the students from '01 - '05.
Posted by roadhouse
Chicago
Member since Sep 2013
2703 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 11:01 am to
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The prior pool there was perfectly functional for the general public and the student body - it just wasn't good enough for the swim teams. They should have had to pay for it instead of referring the fees onto the students.



The new pool being attached to the rec center actually makes it more usable for students that want to incorporate laps into their workout, as well as being more convenient with parking, locker rooms, etc...but I agree that AD should have covered some of this
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22082 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 1:46 pm to
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Question for the Auburn, Mizzou, and UGA fans...


I seriously thought this was going to be another "dirtiest program" thread. My bad . . .

Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
5956 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 3:54 pm to
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If we build something new today I'm sure it would be groundbreaking as you put it. And is Bauerle officially gone? I thought they were still investigating? And by the way, our assistant would be hired at every other program as top dog so don't let the gymnastics thing scare you...



Well, I think since he basically was told NOT to do what he did, and then went ahead and did it, then yeah, it is highly likely that you will be hearing about his "retirement" soon enough.
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
20238 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 3:56 pm to
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Part of the Ramsey Student Center (UGA Recreation)
Opened: 1995
Cost: $40 Million
Size: 430,000 sq feet
Is the 40m for the pool or for all of Ramsey? Ramsey is super nice and I took it for granted. My gym now is like a closet.
Posted by PNW
Northern Rockies
Member since Mar 2014
6193 posts
Posted on 4/14/14 at 4:05 pm to
I'm pretty sure that estimate included the entire student center. Because it was being built in the mid 90s it's pretty hard to get an accurate number on the actual natatorium.
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