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QB GURUS: Does Connor Shaw throw off the back foot?

Posted on 5/5/13 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Chris_topher
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/5/13 at 5:53 pm
Or is it 3/4? or... fundamentally sound?

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Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/5/13 at 6:06 pm to
He gets the job done.

Does have kind of a funky happy gilmore-ish hop when he throws deep balls
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/5/13 at 6:56 pm to
It's fundamentally sound as far as what Steve Spurrier teaches and wants from his QBs...all his QBs will throw with the exact same technique and form. Shaw throws off the front foot when he's throwing from the pocket.....perhaps off the back foot or 50/50 when he throws on the run, which he's pretty adept at doing.

I saw one particular pass he made in the linked video on a goal-line situation vs UK (around the 1:10 mark) where the play is a little play-action fake and he quickly lobs it to TE Cunningham for a TD that looked almost 50-50, but that wasn't a true full-form pass play anyway....
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26858 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 7:05 pm to
He looks fine to me.

Much better than Jaybo Shaw if that's what you want to know (deep down).
Posted by Chris_topher
Member since Sep 2012
8163 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 7:25 pm to
I feel like he's one of the underrated players in the SEC... and if he can do it, or Johnny Football or Tebow... anyone can do it(be successful at QB) Takes more than fundamentals
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/5/13 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

I feel like he's one of the underrated players in the SEC... and if he can do it, or Johnny Football or Tebow... anyone can do it(be successful at QB) Takes more than fundamentals


Connor does a great job moving the chains on 3rd down. It doesn't matter how you do that. Just do it.

GT is typically up there in 3rd down conversions.
But I think you guys try to get too cute working on your passing game that you put yourself in unconvertable situations too often.
Posted by pilsnerpusher
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/5/13 at 7:59 pm to
in the few ideal, five step (or 3 step from the gun) views on the video his form looks fine to me.

back foot is perpendicular to the target and he opens well and points the front foot at the target in the weight exchange. he has good weight exchange and doesn't over stride. knee bend is good allowing for weight/energy transfer. begins throw with front shoulder pointed at target and ends with back shoulder pointed at target to further transfer the energy generated from the ground up. His elbow leads the throw and his throwing hand comes to rest at his opposite hip pocket with a pronated wrist.

having said all of that, there are plenty of throws on the video of him not using ideal form. you'd find plenty of examples of peyton manning not using ideal form too. sometimes you don't have time, are off balance, there's a massive paw in the way, etc.

I like Conner Shaw. Guys got athleticism, guts, and makes good decisions. very underrated QB in my book.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/5/13 at 8:52 pm to
He (Shaw) more than gets the job done because he can take-off at the drop of a hat and go ...

Now, watch Dylan Thompson throw the ball. He's a pure passer - one of the best I have seen in a long long time.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30839 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 8:57 pm to
Meh.

Shaw isn't anything comparable to Wuerrfel or even grossman when it comes to spurriers teaching.
Posted by jfran23
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
1342 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:00 pm to
Thompson is more fundamentally sound, but shaw is WAY more athletic.
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 9:02 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
44215 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:28 pm to
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Meh.

Shaw isn't anything comparable to Wuerrfel or even grossman when it comes to spurriers teaching.


Shaw is not a pure passer ... but Spurrier has said that Thompson has the chance to be his best ever. He's bigger and has a stronger arm than Wuerrfel, but he has an understanding of the game and can make the time throws like Danny. That's key in Spurrier's offense.

Still yet, anyone that underestimates Shaw's ability to throw the ball gets beaten.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
40042 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

Now, watch Dylan Thompson throw the ball. He's a pure passer - one of the best I have seen in a long long time.


well you should watch more football then
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Your Mom’s Sperm Donor
Member since Jan 2013
13900 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:11 pm to
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and if he can do it, or Johnny Football or Tebow... anyone can do it


Shaw is no JFF or Tebow. Sorry. HUGE talent gap.

JFF>>>>>>>Tebow>>>>Shaw
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:12 pm to
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JFF>>>>>>>Tebow
God I hate when aggies say this.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:14 pm to
The problem I notice the most is he brings his foot too far up, and brings it up too soon. You first see it rather early in the video and then you can't miss it every other time it happens.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
16054 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:14 pm to
I think he does it since his ribs still hurt from that hit Jerico Nelson put on him in 2010...which was a CLEAN HIT by the way
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
6840 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

Jerico Nelson
Do you mean Jake Bequette? That's the only shot I remember him taking that game. And ff that's the hit you're referring to, then no, it wasn't clean.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:17 pm to
His form is actually pretty good for a guy who's known more for being a dual threat QB. His form, timing and decision making has also improved over the years.

He doesn't have the arm strength that Thompson or Mitch have, but he's a QB that during third downs can get the job done. He moves the chains well.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
16054 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:34 pm to
No, the year before the Bequette hit when bitchass Shaw was relieving Garcia to close out an arse whooping in Columbia. Shaw runs toward the sidelines but tries for an extra yard. Broken ribs May've been 2009 I guess?

And the Bequette hit was clean as a Lysol factory
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 10:35 pm
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
40042 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:35 pm to
95% of the aggies on this board are just bad trolls. Let them be, the fall will be epic (see MSU: grind, #webelive post alabama game 2012)
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