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Proposal of Conference scheduling NO Divisions, 1 Permanent Opponent

Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:02 pm
Posted by Tigerrotti
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
646 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:02 pm
Everyone has and plays 1 permanent rival opponent home and home and rotates 6 teams every other year. I think an in season home and home for rivalry games would add even more to the rivalries. Top 2 teams at the end of the year go to ATL. This alignment also gives every school a chance to play the whole conference in 2 years, as well as every stadium ever 4 years.

Arkansas - Missouri
Texas A&M - LSU
Ole Miss - Mississippi St
Alabama - Auburn
Tennessee - Vanderbilt (Vandy leads 5-2 in the last 7 seasons)
South Carolina - Kentucky
Florida - Georgia

Example Schedule using LSU from 2020-2023

2020 -2022
Texas A&M -Texas A&M
@Missouri -Missouri
Auburn -@Auburn
@Georgia -Georgia
@Tennessee -Tennessee
Kentucky -@Kentucky
Mississippi St -@Mississippi St
@Texas A&M -@Texas A&M

2021 -2023
Texas A&M -Texas A&M
@Arkansas -Arkansas
@Alabama -Alabama
Florida -@Florida
South Carolina -@South Carolina
@Vanderbilt -Vanderbilt
Ole Miss -@Ole Miss
@Texas A&M -@Texas A&M
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63784 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:08 pm to
Make it two permanents and keep it at 8 games and I'm in.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20449 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

Make it two permanents and keep it at 8 games and I'm in.


This guy gets it.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18156 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:18 pm to
2 permanent and 7 rotating in a 9 game conf schedule works cleaner. But, I'm a big fan of no Divisional play, as I've expressed a lot.

Preserves more rivalries with 2 perm conf games, and the 7 other games ensure a home and away against every team in the conference every 4 years.

ETA: that was meant for OP. Keeping an 8 game conf schedule also has merit. But scheduling needs to be relooked, as going 8+ years without a conf game vs a cross-divisional team is BS
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 9:24 pm
Posted by ElectricWizard0
Member since Jul 2017
2702 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:18 pm to
How dare you bring actual rational sports discussion to this board
Posted by Tigerrotti
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
646 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:31 pm to
Playing every one every other year will keep the rivalries outside of the main one fresh, LSU UGA has a good history of games and we have played a grand total of 6 regular season games in 20 years
Posted by redeye
Member since Aug 2013
8596 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:33 pm to
I like it, but rotate every year and do away with the SECCG.
Posted by mckibaj
Member since Nov 2010
7728 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:33 pm to
I've always been a fan of the 3 permanent 5 rotating.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10506 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:37 pm to
If there is no divisions, there is no Conference Championship game. It would boil down to an argument between wins and losses vs strength of schedule. This is a non-starter.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10506 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

How dare you bring actual rational sports discussion to this board




Unless everyone plays everyone, this is horrible.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:43 pm to
Nothing says offseason like these threads.
Posted by Kidcube1
Member since Oct 2017
393 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 10:04 pm to
2 permanent opponents LSU can get A&M/Georgia

2 permanent opponents rotate 7 of the other 12 teams
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 10:06 pm
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7251 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 6:46 am to
So, you must feel good throwing away DSOR, IB, & others?
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7251 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 6:52 am to
Can someone explain to me how "no divisions" is a better option when it'll require several tie-breakers to compare ALL 14 TEAMS TO EACH OTHER due to lack of common opponents.

Yes I get the rotation part. But that's about it.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7251 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 6:53 am to
At the expense of at least 2 ANNUAL rivalries.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7251 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 6:55 am to
& you've thrown DSOR out the window. Congrats.
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 7:20 am to
If you want a conference championship game you need divisions, if you have divisions you need round robin competition in the divisions themselves. These are the requirements of the ncaa and any half way sane approach to determining champions. Pretty much have to start from there.

Major problem we have is lack of overall available games vs size of the conference and divisions. Can’t have conference expansion without eventual division expansion. It’s either that or decreasing conference size. Now should ncaa rules change there is a potential for a tournament to determine champion. But again we come to how many games can be played type problem and comparison to other conferences. Nothing will really change other than 9 games unless there is an overall change with the ncaa and all the other conferences. So these debates are silly

SEC schedule is set for several more years. They have said a few times they are seeing it through.
This post was edited on 5/4/19 at 7:22 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27289 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 7:25 am to
quote:

argument between wins and losses vs strength of schedule. This is a non-starter.


Thank you.

I do not want a "committee" or whatever to "vote" in the case of a 3 way tie or 2 way tie for 2nd place.

Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19231 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 7:27 am to
There are 4 teams holding back any conference re-alignment: UGA, AU, bama, and UT. Their 2 annual games are almost holy in their minds. bama & UT has become a joke. The aggies broke with tradition of playing Texas for the betterment of their program. No fan of either program but that game meant as much to both teams as either of these 4 teams in the SEC. I do not see re-alignment coming but am hearing a lot of rumors about shifting some games away from their traditional dates; specifically, the AD meetings in Fla. this Spring will be addressing this, partially due to serious concerns about lagging attendance conference / nationwide
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27289 posts
Posted on 5/4/19 at 7:39 am to
quote:

hearing a lot of rumors


Have a link to said rumors?

Which games in the SEC?And how will shifting dates help attendence?

Sorry not seeing an attendence problem with conference and P5 OOC games in the SEC.G5 and FCS games are another issue.

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