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Posted on 7/11/12 at 9:52 am to Irons Puppet
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The UAB Business School and other departments are OWNED and GOVERNED by the UA System too. If they do secede they all go together. UAT could open a Medical School at Druid City. It is not about an on-campus stadium, that is just the latest example of the BOTs management. Ask UAH why they want to secede.
So are UAB & UAH seceding or not?
Just because they "want" to - doesn't mean they have the balls to do it.
This post was edited on 7/11/12 at 9:53 am
Posted on 7/11/12 at 10:20 am to Irons Puppet
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Granted, Alabama State has some things that UAB doesn't have. ASU has decades and decades of football tradition, with a large and loyal fan base, which UAB is trying to build.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 10:28 am to CapstoneGrad06
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Granted, Alabama State has some things that UAB doesn't have. ASU has decades and decades of football tradition, with a large and loyal fan base, which UAB is trying to build.
UAB will never build a fan base with the constraints of Legion Field and the interferance of the bama BOTs. The people at Bama know that and will continuie to block any advancements.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 10:35 am to RT1941
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So are UAB & UAH seceding or not?
Just because they "want" to - doesn't mean they have the balls to do it.
UAB and UAH can secede any time they want as soon as they give back the UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA SCHOOL OF MEDICINE back to the UA System (which will consist of only "UAT") and give back all the money the system has given them. I've seen that coming from level headed UAB people on blogs who rightfully state that seceding from the UA system would be devastating to UAB. At least they'll have their "freedom" though.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 10:45 am to Govt Tide
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UAB and UAH can secede any time they want as soon as they give back the UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA SCHOOL OF MEDICINE back to the UA System (which will consist of only "UAT") and give back all the money the system has given them. I've seen that coming from level headed UAB people on blogs who rightfully state that seceding from the UA system would be devastating to UAB. At least they'll have their "freedom" though.
I'm sure they are willing to give back the title to UAT and keep the building (UAB owns) and the employees. It is not going to happen, but there will be changes when we get of Gov whose concerns are more than Tuscaloosa Co.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 10:59 am to Irons Puppet
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I'm sure they are willing to give back the title to UAT and keep the building (UAB owns) and the employees. It is not going to happen, but there will be changes when we get of Gov whose concerns are more than Tuscaloosa Co.
Oh, there would most certainly be changes and changes that would benefit the entire state and especially the Bham area if UAB people and the Auburn people that egg them on weren't such whining, sniping ingrateful little ####s towards the main campus. UAB started it by taking the UA logo off the medical school and phasing out any memory of the main campus's founding of the institution in the first place. If the city of Birmingham was seriously concerned about seeing Birmingham prosper they would have no problem giving back the name and the ownership they stole from the main campus. That way UAT's medical school remains in Birmingham, Birmingham reaps the jobs/rewards, and UAB gets their independence. Everyone wins.
P.S. How would you as an Auburn fan like it if Auburn put one of it's prized programs in Montgomery at its sattelite campus and AUM stole it and then turned around and bitched and whined towards Auburn because Auburn didn't build an on campus stadium for AUM? Even more, Alabama fans having the nerve to throw their weight and support behind AUM over the matter?
This post was edited on 7/11/12 at 11:04 am
Posted on 7/11/12 at 11:02 am to Govt Tide
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Auburn people that egg them on
Posted on 7/11/12 at 11:03 am to Govt Tide
who gives a shite board.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 11:05 am to piggidyphish
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who gives a shite board.
Well, it does fit in, albeit very loosely, with the rift between Alabama and Auburn discussed in the OP.
This post was edited on 7/11/12 at 11:06 am
Posted on 7/11/12 at 11:08 am to Govt Tide
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Well, it does fit in, albeit very loosely, with the rift between Alabama and Auburn discussed in the OP.
Your right, it shows that UATs arrogance goes beyond actions toward AU. They would eat their own before they woulds allow them to prosper.
This post was edited on 7/11/12 at 11:14 am
Posted on 7/11/12 at 11:18 am to Irons Puppet
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Your right, it shows that UAT arrogance goes beyond actions toward AU. They would eat their own before they wouls allow them to prosper
Quite the opposite. Comparatively speaking, UAT has invested WAY WAY WAY more heavily in the state than Auburn by putting huge investments behind it's sattelite campuses (especially UAB). UAB wouldn't even exist if not for UAT and my point is that UAB forgets that, doesn't acknowledge or appreciated the billions that UAT has put into its medical school located on the UAB campus, etc. Birmingham has reaped phenomenal economic rewards from UAT's decision to place ITS medical school there. Yet Birmingham and UAB show no appreciation at all for it.
AU, on the other hand, has invested very little in AUM. It's nothing more really than a feeder school to AU. The fact that UAB is even powerful to cause a commotion towards UAT is due to the tremendous support UAT has given UAB over the years. AUM is barely notice by AU or anyone else.
This post was edited on 7/11/12 at 11:20 am
Posted on 7/11/12 at 11:24 am to Govt Tide
So does UAT generate this money that they give UAB on their own or do they get it from the state and the fed?
Posted on 7/11/12 at 11:52 am to NYCAuburn
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So does UAT generate this money that they give UAB on their own or do they get it from the state and the fed?
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The University of Alabama started a medical college in its early years that they initially placed in Mobile again as a way to take advantage of a major population center in the state at the time. They moved it to Tuscaloosa where it grew even more. They then decided to open an extension and Birmingham and place THEIR medical school there to take advantage of Bham's population explosion. The medical college operating in Birmingham for many years with UA pumping money for facilities into it through the years. The medical college was so successful that other academic buildings started sprouting up and UAT decided to develop the campus into a full blown extension center of the university main campus. UAB was born from this separate campus not related to the medical school. UAB about 30 years ago started incorporated the University of Alabama medical school into the separate campus and took all the UA logos off of it and put UAB signs everywhere on the buildings and the diplomas.
To answer your question, the money was initially provided by the state, fed, and UAT generated money just like it is with any other university. The point is that it was the University of Alabama School of Medicine for well over 100 years since its founding and UAB decided to say f### it and take over the buildings with their signs and logos on buildings and diplomas.
Posted on 7/11/12 at 12:50 pm to Govt Tide
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AU, on the other hand, has invested very little in AUM. It's nothing more really than a feeder school to AU. The fact that UAB is even powerful to cause a commotion towards UAT is due to the tremendous support UAT has given UAB over the years. AUM is barely notice by AU or anyone else.
I love the way you painted the generosity of UAT as building the Medical School but failed to recognize that without the city of Birmingham the school would be housed a DCH. How come the Med Schools reputation excelled only after it was moved to Birmingham ?
As far a AUM being a feeder school for AU, again you to try to whitewash the truth to fit your agenda. AUM is a branch of AU, but they offer seperate degrees. They are essentially a seperate school, same as UAB and UAH. At some point they all will be stand alone universities.
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