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Pivotal Season for CF ?
Posted on 8/15/19 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 8/15/19 at 3:01 pm
Is this a pivotal year for CF from a 4 team playoff system standpoint ? Economy is good and everyone is use to the Committee System by now, by what is the overall health of CF ? Attendance at most schools is not at capacity and some leagues (PAC12) are suffering TV ratings. Will this causes an expansion of the Playoff and a change in the OOC schedules for most leagues? Plus, is there Bama, Clemson and the SEC fatigue ?
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 3:08 pm to Irons Puppet
Not Clemson fatigue. Not yet.
But Bama fatigue? Has been for some time now -- since 2012.
But Bama fatigue? Has been for some time now -- since 2012.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 3:14 pm to Irons Puppet
I suspect, unless you are one of the blessed, attendance will decline until your stadium seats what the market will bear.
60k great seats in Fayetteville will sell out and be loud for decades to come. 80k not so much.
College football itself is still healthy, at least in terms of viewership. But when it comes to stadiums I think the trend will be make it better not bigger.
60k great seats in Fayetteville will sell out and be loud for decades to come. 80k not so much.
College football itself is still healthy, at least in terms of viewership. But when it comes to stadiums I think the trend will be make it better not bigger.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 3:21 pm to Irons Puppet
A lot of attendance depends on cyclical factors and things such as weather. If there are a bunch of scorching hot days across the country in September attendance will collapse. If the weather is mild attendance will pickup.
About the best thing CF has for it this year is that the 2nd and 4th weeks are complete duds like they have been for the last few years. Marquee matchups and early season optimism might get some of the stay-at-home-and-watch-the-game-on-my 80-inch-4KHD crowd to actually come to the stadium.
About the best thing CF has for it this year is that the 2nd and 4th weeks are complete duds like they have been for the last few years. Marquee matchups and early season optimism might get some of the stay-at-home-and-watch-the-game-on-my 80-inch-4KHD crowd to actually come to the stadium.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 3:38 pm to CFFreak
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But Bama fatigue? Has been for some time now -- since 2012.
Hope it continues for another decade. At least.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:00 pm to Irons Puppet
Tennessee has somehow sold 63 of the 69k season tickets but can’t give away single game tickets for any game outside of UGA. Atrocious home schedule obviously plays a part. Probably will be 10-20k empty seats for most games this year outside of UGA and BYU who is reportedly bringing 15-20k fans.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:17 pm to Irons Puppet
College football (and football in general) is dying. And it will reach a tipping point soon. The infusion cash from TV deals falsely bouyed the sport, but the long term future is not bright. Look at the viewer and attendee demographics....middle aged white dudes. And as we age and TV's get better, we have less and less incentive to go to the games. Beer might bring some younger people in but only for the novelty, but I won't go to any more games just for beer. I only lightly drink anyway. I go to 1-4 games a year but gave up my season tix many years. Doesn't make financial sense.
The young people in Atlanta are all about the Atlanta United. They grew up playing soccer, not football. And they will be the decision-makers on the PSL's and scholarship seats for these teams.
I'm a huge CFB fan and I have three red-blooded alpha male boys...only one of them is even a casual football fan and the other two couldn't care less about football at all.
It will be interesting to see what the next round of TV contracts looks like...
The young people in Atlanta are all about the Atlanta United. They grew up playing soccer, not football. And they will be the decision-makers on the PSL's and scholarship seats for these teams.
I'm a huge CFB fan and I have three red-blooded alpha male boys...only one of them is even a casual football fan and the other two couldn't care less about football at all.
It will be interesting to see what the next round of TV contracts looks like...
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:22 pm to Irons Puppet
I mean someone needed to conquer Bama and Clemson seems to be able to.
Next we need two or three more teams at that level so this year only helps see who will.
Georgia,, LSU, Florida, Oklahoma, Texas, Oregon, Auburn, etc.
Think that is a big story. Who can hang with the two powers.
Next we need two or three more teams at that level so this year only helps see who will.
Georgia,, LSU, Florida, Oklahoma, Texas, Oregon, Auburn, etc.
Think that is a big story. Who can hang with the two powers.
Posted on 8/15/19 at 4:39 pm to Gatorbait2008
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I mean someone needed to conquer Bama and Clemson seems to be able to.
Next we need two or three more teams at that level so this year only helps see who will.
Georgia,, LSU, Florida, Oklahoma, Texas, Oregon, Auburn, etc.
Think that is a big story. Who can hang with the two powers.
Clemson is the benefactor of playing in the ACC and Auburn proved that someone can dethrone Bama (committee overturned it). I still think the biggest problem is the CFP Committee and their ability to overlook a Conference Champion over someone who doesn't even win their division. The PAC 12 was out of the playoff conversation in October and the Big 10 not much later. That is a lot of TVs.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:50 am to MykTide
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Hope it continues for another decade. At least.
The Bama fatigue will but Saban leaves after 2020.
Bama's decline is on and people will still hate Alabama. For many different reasons.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:58 am to volfan30
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Tennessee has somehow sold 63 of the 69k season tickets but can’t give away single game tickets for any game outside of UGA. Atrocious home schedule obviously plays a part. Probably will be 10-20k empty seats for most games this year outside of UGA and BYU who is reportedly bringing 15-20k fans.
This is the main reason we need to play 10 SEC games and drop the permanent rivals game. That allows for one cupcake to either start the season to get the players on the same page and one OOC game.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:01 pm to TailbackU
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I'm a huge CFB fan and I have three red-blooded alpha male boys...only one of them is even a casual football fan and the other two couldn't care less about football at all.
Do better
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:02 pm to TailbackU
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The young people in Atlanta are all about the Atlanta United. They grew up playing soccer, not football
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:04 pm to red sox fan 13
The problem with four teams is that there are too many crap teams that have a shot based on playing piss-poor schedules, yet cannot seem to win a CFP game because of that very fact. It makes the playoff boring
Yes, I'm specifically talking about the 0-fer Sooners and their piss-poor competition in conference. You always know the B12 sacrificial lamb is an auto-win for their opponent
Yes, I'm specifically talking about the 0-fer Sooners and their piss-poor competition in conference. You always know the B12 sacrificial lamb is an auto-win for their opponent
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:04 pm to WestCoastAg
I don’t blame them. The falcons are atrocious.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:05 pm to Irons Puppet
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I still think the biggest problem is the CFP Committee and their ability to overlook a Conference Champion over someone who doesn't even win their division. The PAC 12 was out of the playoff conversation in October and the Big 10 not much later. That is a lot of TVs.
College football is stuck between the idea that every game matters and more than one loss is a death sentence for national implications (sans 2007, which was an anomaly), and the idea that conference championship games and conference champions matter. If conference championships matter, they should expand the playoffs to six or eight. But it really is also nice not having a 9-4 team that won an extremely down conference getting a marquee playoff game over an 11-1 team from a strong conference who actually has a chance to win it all, all because of some typical BS politics.
The Pac 12 was eliminated in October because their conference champion had three losses by the end of October. They weren't deserving of a playoff appearance under the current four team format.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:06 pm to Irons Puppet
Expanding the playoff is the natural progression for the TV folks but it will further damage the sport. For some reason people are under the delusion that granting greater access to conferences and teams that can’t make a 4 team playoff will somehow make the sport better and not completely devalue the regular season.
The sport is gasping it’s last breathes. Period. TV caused its rise and it’s going to cause its demise as well. I’m going to the Notre Dame game in Sanford Stadium this year fully aware that it will be the single most expensive event ever held in that stadium, to the point that the average fan has been all but completely priced out of attending a home game. It’s the beginning of the end. “Tailgating” is less a pregame activity anymore and more a branding term used to sell shite to people.
Lets face it: the folks in charge of the sport (coaches, ADs, and school presidents) sold it to the TV conglomerates and now do whatever is asked of them to enhance profits. They abandoned what made it special and while it will continue to play every Saturday every Fall, it will never again be what it was.
The sport is gasping it’s last breathes. Period. TV caused its rise and it’s going to cause its demise as well. I’m going to the Notre Dame game in Sanford Stadium this year fully aware that it will be the single most expensive event ever held in that stadium, to the point that the average fan has been all but completely priced out of attending a home game. It’s the beginning of the end. “Tailgating” is less a pregame activity anymore and more a branding term used to sell shite to people.
Lets face it: the folks in charge of the sport (coaches, ADs, and school presidents) sold it to the TV conglomerates and now do whatever is asked of them to enhance profits. They abandoned what made it special and while it will continue to play every Saturday every Fall, it will never again be what it was.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:06 pm to TailbackU
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The young people in Atlanta are all about the Atlanta United. They grew up playing soccer, not football. And they will be the decision-makers on the PSL's and scholarship seats for these teams.
The novelty of a championship winning professional team in Atlanta will wear off soon enough.
I'm a Braves fan, ask me how I know.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:18 pm to tylerdurden24
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Expanding the playoff is the natural progression for the TV folks but it will further damage the sport. For some reason people are under the delusion that granting greater access to conferences and teams that can’t make a 4 team playoff will somehow make the sport better and not completely devalue the regular season.
I agree. College football is suffering a bit of an identity crisis right now. It was the last level of football to receive a playoff because of the bowl culture and the idea that the regular season matters and the best two teams should be duking it out. The problem with that is, even if you count just the Power 5 teams and BYU/Notre Dame, CFB has well over twice the amount of teams that the NFL has, so the parity from year to year is all over the place. There's too much pride and money riding on the sport to not have some kind of further proving grounds by the end of the season to decide who really deserves to win the NC. The mixed cultures of a biased and blue blood leaning top 25 poll deciding who's who, and the balanced approach of a playoff with conference winners are clashing and creating a confusing dynamic.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:30 pm to Irons Puppet
The Big 10 getting left out AGAIN would be fantastic and should speed up expansion talks. They have traditionally been the second most powerful conference and the playoff gained legs only when they finally pushed for it after 21-0.
eta - The last time the Big 10 made the playoff, the PAC 12 made the playoff. Think about that.
eta - The last time the Big 10 made the playoff, the PAC 12 made the playoff. Think about that.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 12:32 pm
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