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PFF says Justin Fields is the most accurate quarterback it has ever recorded

Posted on 6/9/21 at 1:50 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/9/21 at 1:50 pm
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PFF wrote on Monday that Fields is the most accurate college quarterback they’ve ever recorded in terms of completion percentage over expected (CPOE), since they began recording college data in 2014. CPOE measures the rate of “a quarterback’s accuracy based on the likelihood of them completing a pass in the given circumstances and whether they actually completed the pass.” It takes into account things like pass depth, pressure and target width. Most importantly, PFF data show a correlation between college CPOE and expected points added per play in the NFL.



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Posted by luismlg
Member since Mar 2010
1430 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 1:52 pm to
Trubisky higher than Mahomes?
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21773 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 1:52 pm to
Obviously PFF is messed up. Look at the first two names alone
Posted by Quicksilver
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/9/21 at 1:54 pm to
Fields had an incredible 2019 that likely wins the Heisman most years easily. Something like 40 TDs to 1 pick heading into the playoffs. He didn't have as good of a year last year but was still really good and his performance against Clemson with the broken rib was one of the gutsiest performances I've seen. I hate OSU but I'm a big Justin Fields fan.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 6/9/21 at 1:55 pm to
How do they adjust this metric for Mac Jones to consider the fact that Alabama receivers were running wild with four yards of separation?
Posted by Stuckinthe90s
Dallas, TX
Member since Apr 2013
2576 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 1:56 pm to
Thats a weird way to define accuracy. Correct me if I am wrong, but this is giving more points to passed that are hard to complete, such as deep, rushed, on the run. So if a QB is super accurate but completes the pass without being rushed and medium distance, that doesn't give as many points as a super deep ball that is poorly thrown but a monster WR comes down with correct?

I am not saying this has no value, but I would think that certain offenses and certain QB attributes would be likely to skew the results.
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 1:58 pm
Posted by internetdad
Member since Mar 2021
607 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 1:56 pm to
Ok PFF just lost what credibility they had left
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66336 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 1:57 pm to
What’s Joe without his Junior year?
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3162 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 1:57 pm to
I can't wrap my head around how this stat is measured. All I know is that Fields's accuracy tanked when he was pressured, which happened a lot more often last year than in 2019.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 1:59 pm to
PFF also graded Trask behind Franks and made an entire article to explain why he wasn't an elite Quarterback lol.

https://www.pff.com/news/college-football-ranking-all-14-sec-starting-quarterbacks-ahead-of-week-7

https://www.pff.com/news/college-football-why-florida-kyle-trask-not-elite-sec-quarterback

I take their grading system on Quarterbacks with a huge grain of salt lol.
Posted by Froman
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Member since Jun 2007
36200 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 2:02 pm to
Three of the top ten were drafted this year, so clearly it has to do with a shift in the game itself, not that I’m belittling the achievements of the players on the list. It’s still very hard.
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 6/9/21 at 2:09 pm to
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that doesn't give as many points as a super deep ball that is poorly thrown but a monster WR comes down with correct?


A QB would not get as much credit for a poorly thrown ball
Posted by Baywatch
Member since Jan 2019
219 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 2:15 pm to
Say what you want, Justin is at his best when he is running fake punts.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 2:23 pm to
Fields is good. But an average Bama defense shut him down. It will be interesting to see how he does against NFL defenses
Posted by paperwasp
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/9/21 at 2:42 pm to
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PFF just lost what credibility they had left

I'm usually a PFF defender, but honestly the inclusion of Lamar Jackson gives me pause here.

I guess there have only been so many QBs drafted in the first round over the past six years, so maybe he's just there by default?
Posted by Mizzou4ever
Kansas City, Mo
Member since Nov 2011
15229 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 2:58 pm to
And of course we know Mahomies is the best in that group.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123586 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:21 pm to
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CPOE measures the rate of “a quarterback’s accuracy based on the likelihood of them completing a pass in the given circumstances and whether they actually completed the pass.”


Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41133 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:26 pm to
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CPOE measures the rate of “a quarterback’s accuracy based on the likelihood of them completing a pass in the given circumstances and whether they actually completed the pass.”


It's science by gawd!
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
52628 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 3:36 pm to
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But an average Bama defense shut him down.


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average Bama defense


Posted by ChipDiamond
Member since Nov 2019
189 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

a super deep ball that is poorly thrown but a monster WR comes down with correct?


Manziel perfect example of this...
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